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Originally Posted by Calendyr
And you would be... WRONG!
I respectfully disagree. I have used 845 on my own vehicles after polishing and not performing any kind of IPA/similar wipe down, and have not experienced decreased durability. IIRC even Mike Phillips has jokingly stated that he has never walked into a garage to find that a coat of freshly applied wax/sealant had run off of the car and onto the floor due to not bonding with the paint because it wasn't prepped beforehand.
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Not a pro here but consumer. Wouldn't you want to charge extra based on the size of the vehicle? With Wax (presumably applied using DA?) included in the single crown package, $60 seems low for any size vehicle.
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Re: Review of Packages and Pricing
Originally Posted by Dan K
I respectfully disagree. I have used 845 on my own vehicles after polishing and not performing any kind of IPA/similar wipe down, and have not experienced decreased durability. IIRC even Mike Phillips has jokingly stated that he has never walked into a garage to find that a coat of freshly applied wax/sealant had run off of the car and onto the floor due to not bonding with the paint because it wasn't prepped beforehand.
Unless the manufacturer requires chemically stripped paint, then a wipe down is unnecessary.
With some products, it will even hinder bonding.
https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...t-bonding.html
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Considering polishes contain oils, there is no way a scellant will bind correctly if you don't remove it. Also, it's pretty much impossible to know how long a scellant stays on the paint unless you do an exaustive test with a side by side on the same pannel. How would you know that your scellant that lasts x amount of time would not last far longer if the pannel was prepped?
As a finial note, doing an IPA, Eracer or grease and wax remover step is very quick and very cheap. Why would you skip a step that will take you maybe 5 or 10 minutes for the whole vehicle and ensure proper bonding of the scellant?
If you don't want to do it, fine, there is no law against putting a scellant or wax over a polished pannel. But don't assume the product will bind just as well, because it will not.
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I assume you tested this out? How much more did the sealant last with IPA as against without IPA?
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id say your prices are low at least from my stand point, after taxes and overhead your hrly rate looks to be nothing you can live off of. I shoot for $60 an hr but depending on the job will go down to $40 the lowest. its all very dependent on your area and what people can afford but don't give away your services and if you have to adjust your package to make up for time.
for example I have a paint only package where I only do paint enhancement and that's it. I don't open the doors, I don't touch the windows (I normally do them anyways) no wheel cleaning or tire dressing, its a quick 2-4 pass max of HD speed and I'm done. I know how long it takes me and I charge accordingly. they know up front what they are getting and there are no surprises but even this takes me the time it takes you to do 4x more work.
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My 2 cents:
1) single crown
Simple wash and interior wipe down
2) double crown
Wash and wax with interior wipe down
3) triple crown
Wash, clay, one step cleaner wax with interior wipe down
Then add miscellaneous services like interior detailing and glass polishing and headlight restoration..
With your target market, i think this will work. Then just branch out or expand depending on what happens.
I believe in keeping things simple that i overcomplicate them
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I appreciate you taking the time to do that for me. I really like how that layout works, I was debating whether to do separate int and ext details like some other detailers in the area, but being slightly different with package offers may be beneficial.
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Ok boys and girls, here is pretty much a final version of my updated packages and pricing based off of some suggestions that I received here. Just a disclaimer, prices are what is average for my market area, based off of a handful of detailers within a 50mi radius of me, give or take $5-$10. Plus, starting part time, and with word of mouth and quality work I have the ability to up my prices later.
The Exterior Crown- $50
Wash and Dry
Tar / Bug Removal
Wax Application
Clean Wheels / Wheel Wells
Tire Degreasing and Shine
Exterior Windows Clean and Shine
Dress all Trim
The Interior Crown- $50
Complete Interiror Detail:
(Dash, console, cup holders, all cracks and crevices)
Spot Treatment / Stain Removal
Cloth Seat Renewal
Leather Seat Clean/Condition/Protect
Vacuum Carpets / Floor mats
Weather mat Degreasing (if equipped)
Interior Windows Clean and Shine
The Triple Crown- $80
Exterior Crown Package & Interior Crown Package
The Crown Royale- $120
The Triple Crown package plus:
Chemical Paint Decontamination
Clay Bar Application
One-Step Machine Polish:
(Swirl Remover, Gloss Enhancement, and Protection)
Insulator Wax Application:
(Provides 6months of Paint Protection)
Specialty Services:
*Call or Text for a quote*
Engine Bay Details
Headlight Restoration
Two-Step Paint Corrections
Fleet Washing
Pricing:
Coupes/Sedans: Price as Shown
Midsize SUVs/Trucks/Vans: plus $10 to each package
Full-Size SUVs/Trucks/ Vans: plus $20 to each package
RVs, Boats, Semis, Airplanes, Campers: Call or Text for a quote
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Re: Review of Packages and Pricing
Originally Posted by 3Crowns
Ok boys and girls, here is pretty much a final version of my updated packages and pricing based off of some suggestions that I received here. Just a disclaimer, prices are what is average for my market area, based off of a handful of detailers within a 50mi radius of me, give or take $5-$10. Plus, starting part time, and with word of mouth and quality work I have the ability to up my prices later.
The Exterior Crown- $50
Wash and Dry
Tar / Bug Removal
Wax Application
Clean Wheels / Wheel Wells
Tire Degreasing and Shine
Exterior Windows Clean and Shine
Dress all Trim
The Interior Crown- $50
Complete Interiror Detail:
(Dash, console, cup holders, all cracks and crevices)
Spot Treatment / Stain Removal
Cloth Seat Renewal
Leather Seat Clean/Condition/Protect
Vacuum Carpets / Floor mats
Weather mat Degreasing (if equipped)
Interior Windows Clean and Shine
The Triple Crown- $80
Exterior Crown Package & Interior Crown Package
The Crown Royale- $120
The Triple Crown package plus:
Chemical Paint Decontamination
Clay Bar Application
One-Step Machine Polish:
(Swirl Remover, Gloss Enhancement, and Protection)
Insulator Wax Application:
(Provides 6months of Paint Protection)
Specialty Services:
*Call or Text for a quote*
Engine Bay Details
Headlight Restoration
Two-Step Paint Corrections
Fleet Washing
Pricing:
Coupes/Sedans: Price as Shown
Midsize SUVs/Trucks/Vans: plus $10 to each package
Full-Size SUVs/Trucks/ Vans: plus $20 to each package
RVs, Boats, Semis, Airplanes, Campers: Call or Text for a quote
Idk what area you are in but you guys do alot for $50. I do half that in SoCal, I'd like to know your area.
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