Edge 2000 pad failure, 2nd use.

D · 05-14-2007, 09:55 AM

What about the issues people are having with them not spinning?

**Surfer** · 05-14-2007, 10:01 AM

The PC barely spins to begin with, I've used LC pads and they spun about as much as my Edge pad's, neither spin much in 6" form....now my 4" Edge pads definitley spin more so must be do to the size. The PC majority movement is orbiting not rotating.

**The Edge** · 05-14-2007, 10:16 AM

The action of the PC is orbit not spin. There is no forced spin. The spin is a byproduct of the orbit because the spindle is mounted on a bearing so that it can orbit with no load. With pressure you can bog down that spin and no pad will spin. Hold it in the air and it will spin alot. That being said, even with that kind of bogging down, the PC will work just as intended. Our pads are designed to be used with the 6 inch counterweight for less vibration on your hands. How much pressure you apply, what speed you use, how much chemical, condition of the finish will all play into how much it ends up turning as well as orbiting.

D · 05-14-2007, 10:57 AM

Ok, because I always hear people say that if the pad isnt spinning, then you're using too much pressure. But it seems to me that even with just the PC's weight the pads will stop spinning. This is with Meguiars pads, I havent used my Edge pads yet.

**Jonboy** · 05-14-2007, 11:23 AM

I've got LC and Edge pads neither spin to that degree unless in free air.
I've not had any problems with the Edge pads in fact IMO they perform better than LC.

**Admin** · 05-14-2007, 11:49 AM

We are looking into this problems, the older pc's manual did not state anything in the manual about using a the spacer but the new manual does indicate to use the spacer to clear the counterweight screws.

**paivag** · 05-14-2007, 12:15 PM

Excellent support from a vendor here. 5 Stars all the way *****

Originally Posted by The Edge

The system is not meant to be used with washers. The pad should not hit anything, and we do check the pads and they are designed for the PC. That being said, we also warrenty the product so just send the blue pad back and we will replace with a new one. Don't know what happened yet, but after we get it back we always inspect them to learn what happened and improve if possible.

**Rsurfer** · 05-14-2007, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Edge

The action of the PC is orbit not spin. There is no forced spin. The spin is a byproduct of the orbit because the spindle is mounted on a bearing so that it can orbit with no load. With pressure you can bog down that spin and no pad will spin. Hold it in the air and it will spin alot. That being said, even with that kind of bogging down, the PC will work just as intended. Our pads are designed to be used with the 6 inch counterweight for less vibration on your hands. How much pressure you apply, what speed you use, how much chemical, condition of the finish will all play into how much it ends up turning as well as orbiting.

If what you are saying is true, why then when I change to a LC ccs pad, it not only spins, but spins with about 15lbs. of pressure to the head of the pc? I do have the 6" counter weight and it did help with the rotation, but with little or no pressure to the pc. I've also used it with washers and without with the same results. No rotation. And I do know the difference between a da and a rotary. Again, why does the lc pads rotate and the edge do not?

**Nimble** · 05-14-2007, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Rsurfer

If what you are saying is true, why then when I change to a LC ccs pad, it not only spins, but spins with about 15lbs. of pressure to the head of the pc? I do have the 6" counter weight and it did help with the rotation, but with little or no pressure to the pc. I've also used it with washers and without with the same results. No rotation. And I do know the difference between a da and a rotary. Again, why does the lc pads rotate and the edge do not?

My opinion is because from personal experience the Edge foam "grabs" the surface more than a LC pad, taking out defects with a slower speed.

**Al-53** · 05-14-2007, 04:40 PM

I am not trying to bad mouth a product here...But I have 4"...5"CCS...5.5 LC...and 6" CCS pads and I can put pressure on them to the point of almost flattening them and get rotation..If I had a video cam I would show you...I have put some serious downward pressure on them and they still spin... I am not favoring one pad over another..just stating a fact...even my old Edge classics will spin...it could be a optical illusion...but they look like spinning to me as I have a red 1" dot on my backing plate and its a solid red blur 360 degrees on speed 5 and 6....

AL