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Re: The Boss is Here - Menzerna FG-400 Has Arrived!
Ok, let me be the first to ask. Is it a SMAT abrasive that allows the "feat" of having a "tremendous amount of cut while finishing out better than most medium-cut polishes"?
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Re: The Boss is Here - Menzerna FG-400 Has Arrived!
How does this differ from FG500 besides being available in the US?
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Re: The Boss is Here - Menzerna FG-400 Has Arrived!
When can we expect to be able to buy it, without pre ordering?
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Re: The Boss is Here - Menzerna FG-400 Has Arrived!
Another question here - is FG400 designed to work with a DA poilsher as well?
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Re: The Boss is Here - Menzerna FG-400 Has Arrived!
Just got off the phone with Jeff Silver, the President of Menzerna U.S.A.
I told him about this thread and how there's a lot of excitement and questions about the product and here's the skinny...
The new 400 Fast Gloss Compound is rated at being able to remove down to #1200 grit sanding marks, my guess is that because this is a Pro Grade product, that is the original market this product is formulated for and intended to be sold into and used is is primarily body shops where they are sanding and buffing on FRESH PAINT that means the #1200 grit level statement applies to fresh paint, not cured paint or factory paint.
This is an important distinction because it's a lot easier to remove ANY scratch pattern out of fresh/soft paint than it is cured/hard paint.
It gets it's cutting ability from primarily higher quality, more expensive abrasive technology together with a chemical cutter.
Now follow me on this, there's less abrasives by volume in the FG 400 Fast Gloss Compound than in both FG 500 and PG 1000 PowerGloss Compound. Yet it cuts faster with less dusting and finishes better due to the,
- Quality of abrasive technology
- Quality of chemical cutter
- Precise control over abrasive particle size
Besides that, Jeff says it's the investment of a lot of laboratory work and engineering behind the product that resulted in this new compound formula.
The low and lack of dusting issue is directly related to the lower volume of abrasives, less abrasives equals less dusting. The cut and finish ability is achieved through higher quality abrasives with uniform particle size and distribution within the complex emulsion mix.
Is it SMAT or DAT? Menzerna isn't' saying. Anything you read or hear from anyone else is speculation and in my opinion in not relevant because in the big picture you're going to pour out a bead of product onto the paint to use with a rotary buffer or apply some to the face of the pad on a DA Polisher and get to work.
How it's made is certainly interesting and I'm always just as curious as the next guy about abrasive technology, a case can even be made that I'm more curious. But at the end of the day the only really important factor is the results you achieve and the performance of the product, not what's in the bottle.
My buddy Carlos is bringing me a black car today and I'm going to do a little test spot using a few different tools and pads and is the norm I'll take some video and some pictures and share them on the forum.
Anyone want to take a guess on what kind of black car?
One thing's for sure though... I'm going to put this new compound to the test and share my findings...
I like Menzerna polishes and my hopes are high that this is going to be a great new addition to their line.
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Re: The Boss is Here - Menzerna FG-400 Has Arrived!
Originally Posted by Mc'lovin
Another question here - is FG400 designed to work with a DA polisher as well?
Yes, my understanding is that it can be used with any tool and when my black victim car gets here I'll test out the below with multiple pads...
Flex PE14
Flex 3401
Griot's DA Polisher
How's that?
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Re: The Boss is Here - Menzerna FG-400 Has Arrived!
Originally Posted by Dr Oldz
How does this differ from FG500 besides being available in the US?
U.S. V.O.C. compliant
More advanced abrasive technology
More advanced chemical cutter technology
More engineering behind the formula
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Re: The Boss is Here - Menzerna FG-400 Has Arrived!
Might have to include some of this in my next order - my M105 is basically gone.
Shane
2021 Honda Civic Hatchback EX Lunar Silver
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Re: The Boss is Here - Menzerna FG-400 Has Arrived!
Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek
Yes, my understanding is that it can be used with any tool and when my black victim car gets here I'll test out the below with multiple pads...
Flex PE14
Flex 3401
Griot's DA Polisher
How's that?
Definitely Looking forward!!!
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