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    Re: Critique my plan of attack, please!

    Great idea cardaddy! (It simply amazes me how much knowledge is on this forum! It really amazes me on how forthcoming everyone is on sharing and helping!)

    BRAVO!!!
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    Re: Critique my plan of attack, please!

    I disagree, you will need D114 as Menzerna polishes are pretty oily. Don't wanna apply WDGPS to oily paint. Coating or not, you want bare paint to get the best bond. In this situation, paint polish enhancer is a waste, period. A quick wipe with D114 is perfect before applying WDGPS.
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    Re: Critique my plan of attack, please!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Honcho View Post
    My daily driver. Outside pretty much 24/7. 2011 Lexus Matador Red Mica

    Okay...here goes...

    1. Wash

    2. Clay

    3. FG400

    4. SF4000

    5. D114 (15:1 as a panel wipe to get residue/oils off paint.)

    6. Wolfgang Paintwork Polish Enhancer

    7. WGDGPS 3.0

    8. 6-pack Goose Island Honkers Ale

    Please add/subtract as you see fit. (Except for the beer.)

    I'm kinda foggy about steps 5 & 6. I'm thinking both aren't needed?

    Thanks!
    iron x between #1 and #2 is a good idea, but not essential.

    #5 is important, sf4000 will leave quite a bit of "polishing oil" on the paint. i usually use IPA or Carpro Eraser.

    delete #6, WGDGPS 3.0 will adhere better and last longer when applied to bare paint.

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    Re: Critique my plan of attack, please!

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt@landrover View Post
    iron x between #1 and #2 is a good idea, but not essential.

    #5 is important, sf4000 will leave quite a bit of "polishing oil" on the paint. i usually use IPA or Carpro Eraser.

    delete #6, WGDGPS 3.0 will adhere better and last longer when applied to bare paint.
    We agree.
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    Re: Critique my plan of attack, please!

    Are you using anything to remove tar, and if so, what step are you doing that at? I usually wipe down the areas that have tar on them then remove the tar as my step one.

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    Re: Critique my plan of attack, please!

    Hadn't that about tar. Symptoms of tar contaminant?
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    Re: Critique my plan of attack, please!

    Why not just use IRON-X snow foam? Two birds, one stone and all.

    Working to remove tar can be anything from mineral spirits, to gasoline, to WD40, to Tar-X. People complain about Tar-X because it doesn't work quick and fast, but it WORKS, and works safely. Don't even have to worry about "exposed flame" when you're using it.

    Mike I wasn't saying not to wipe at all after polishing. It's clear that you'll need to wipe after compounding, (which creates the most mess) then again after polishing. Sure... a dampened towel (with something like D114) would be great to use. I've been a HUGE fan of D114 since it first came out, don't use anything else in fact. I even make all my panel wipe with it.

    BUT... it's been discussed for - years - now whether or not you'll need to have the surface surgically clean, (as you would when using Eraser or a D114 25%+ alcohol mix) when applying a sealant. Don't think for a minute that Power Lock, or WGDGPS 3.0 isn't oily! (Much more so than FF4000 for sure.) I've yet to see a WOWO sealant fall off the surface when being applied after a good polishing. Heck, you can put on a sealant after nothing more than a good wash, (without claying). Although I like to clay/Nanoskin before ANY sealant goes on, period.

    Now if you are using a WOWA sealant you absolutely would want the surface to be cleaner as that's a completely different process.

    Talk about oily.... check out a bottle of Prima Hydro Seal if you want to see something fuuuuuunnnkeeeeeeeee. Holy MOLY is that stuff weird! Looks like 6 week old jamba juice left out in the sun. I've never seen anything separate like it does, EVER! There are clearly 3 different layers in the bottle. Has a ton of scent to it as well, very... shall we say... 'fruity'. I have an 8oz spray bottle of it that another forum member sent me, in a clear spray bottle. I'd (if I were the manufacturer) put it in nothing less than a solid black bottle. Now it works, don't get me wrong, but it scares me! I did a torture test of it on my daughters KIA Sportage as she doesn't have a garage, and it's parked outside 24/7/365. That and her husband doesn't even KNOW HOW to wash a car. By his own admission his Mazda 3 sport wagon has never been washed. (I'm sure it's been driven through washes here and there, but I know that boy doesn't even own a bucket.)

    I did a quick D114 wash of the hood, IN THE SUN. Then a rinse and dry, then applied Prima Hydro Seal in direct sunlight (on black cherry paint) just to see if it'd streak. Went on, wiped clear, and was pretty darned slick. That was early last month and it's still beading.

    For me though... I'll go back to Megs M21 2.0 or WGDGPS 3.0 any day, every day.
    I have BF and WG WOWA versions, as well as plenty of other WOWO sealants, (that I like on jambs) but prefer WOWO versions overall. If I'm going to get things clean enough for the WOWA, then I'll just do the coating and call it a day.

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    Re: Critique my plan of attack, please!

    wipe dirt away from tarred areas then pour some mineral spirits into a spray bottle and douse the tar down and let it set a few minutes then wipe right off with a cloth. I then wash the vehicle then work on removing bugs from the front end, mirrors, front of the roof top, etc. then wash off, dry, wax, etc.

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    Re: Critique my plan of attack, please!

    I presently use CarPro eraser after polishing to remove any oils. So can I replace that with D114 (15:1)? Does D114 work as well? I know Mike Phillips has an article about IPA's, but what's a good safe dilution ratio to use and what %alcohol? Thanks
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