PB Black Hole vs LSP

[Xcessiv]

Hi!

Today, I gave PB Black Hole a first try to and was amazed by the hiding capabilities. One quick pass with the Flex 3401 on blue CCS pad gave results very similar to M105 on orange pad followed by P106FA. It took care of 99% of the swirls. Of course I know it's only temporary, but for a quick job it's quite impressive.

I took the car outside under direct sun and was even more amazed. The look was similar to a 8 hours polish job. I then applied a layer of EX-P; big mistake! 50% of the swirls came back. I heard many things about the best combos with Black Hole...
- EX-P mutes Black Hole / isn't the best solution. Might be true, but I wanted to give it a try (mistake)
- Natty's Blue gives better results. I should have tried this instead.
- Black Hole can be applied as a last step (after sealant / wax) to avoid seeing the swirls back right away. Durability will be compromised, but look might be much better.

So what's the best combo? Thank you!

[outlander]

I used Menzerna IP amd Final polish with a PC orange and white pad. Then applied PB black hole. Next step I will apply Wolfgand Paint Sealent then PB Natty Blue Wax. Did my Stepdtr's with these steps and it came out beautiful. I have three black cars to do. Now I'am starting to do my Suv.

[CakeDaddy]

Hi!

Today, I gave PB Black Hole a first try to and was amazed by the hiding capabilities. One quick pass with the Flex 3401 on blue CCS pad gave results very similar to M105 on orange pad followed by P106FA. It took care of 99% of the swirls. Of course I know it's only temporary, but for a quick job it's quite impressive.

I took the car outside under direct sun and was even more amazed. The look was similar to a 8 hours polish job. I then applied a layer of EX-P; big mistake! 50% of the swirls came back. I heard many things about the best combos with Black Hole...
- EX-P mutes Black Hole / isn't the best solution. Might be true, but I wanted to give it a try (mistake)
- Natty's Blue gives better results. I should have tried this instead.
- Black Hole can be applied as a last step (after sealant / wax) to avoid seeing the swirls back right away. Durability will be compromised, but look might be much better.

So what's the best combo? Thank you!

I just did my bumpers and trunk lid this weekend with Mequiars205,3M Ultra Fina(blue pad),PoorBoys Nattys Blue(hand) & finished with Mequiars #26 Hi-Tech Yellow(hand).

My Poorboys black hole glaze is not really needed anymore. A good effective polish corrects everything and there is no need to hide anything with PB Blk Hole, especially if you have that Flex3401. I use a PC7424, but.... I've used the Black Hole and loved it but it doesn’t last long, especially combo'd with ex-p sealant.

Can anyone recommend a solid sealant that will hold up if teamed with PB black hole glaze? Wait Wait Wait! I know a lot of you hard core guys will frown at the thought of using glaze and sealant for that matter, but I'm just inquiring.

[BlackSunshine01]

^noobie question, why is it not so good to use a glaze and then a sealant?

[SgtDeckard]

Hi!

I then applied a layer of EX-P; big mistake! 50% of the swirls came back. I heard many things about the best combos with Black Hole...
- EX-P mutes Black Hole / isn't the best solution. Might be true, but I wanted to give it a try (mistake)

So what's the best combo? Thank you!

That's really good to know. Was about to make an order for BH and EXP. The mods in this forum really push how well EX-P bonds with Black Hole. Your test shows that while it may bond just fine...it ruins the look.

(taking EX-P out of my cart) I will just use Natty's red or blue over it. I wonder if Collinite would hurt the look of the glaze?

[CakeDaddy]

^noobie question, why is it not so good to use a glaze and then a sealant?

Some glazes and sealants don’t bond well together, but there are some combination out there that are killa when applied correctly

[arkus]

Some glazes and sealants don’t bond well together, but there are some combination out there that are killa when applied correctly

Which ones are killa

[SgtDeckard]

Also I noticed their (Poorboys) website specifically recommends EX-Carnuba NOT EX-P over Black Hole. I wonder if this is why.

[MisterShark]

I've been thinking about giving BH a try.

My current favorite LSP is Optimum Car Wax (spray): wonder if that combo would work.

[trek]

I just used BH with MaxWax on top and it came out looking great...