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05-14-2024, 10:21 AM
#741
Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
Interesting new add to the RW market:
PRELUDIO ACIDIC - #LABOCOSMETICA - EN - NEW
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05-14-2024, 10:24 AM
#742
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Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
Originally Posted by Uncbrs
Most of us use the solution as a pre- Wash
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05-14-2024, 10:44 AM
#743
Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
Originally Posted by Uncbrs
Holy cow, Preludio is here??
Originally Posted by Klasse Act
Most of us use the solution as a pre- Wash
Maybe you missed it, but when Idrosave was introduced, Reggy from Labo was on a podcast, I think it was EC Details, and he stated that Idrosave was supposed to be part of a 3pH rinseless system, but the other two components were taking too long, so they decided to release the Idrosave by itself. He did say then or elsewhere that the pre-wash part was called Preludio, and that there would be an acidic and an alkaline version.
EDIT: It looks like the alkaline is out also, although these don't seem to actually be available yet: PRELUDIO ALKALINE - #LABOCOSMETICA - EN - NEW
Oh, and just to more fully explain, these would be like using Touchless or something like that, but not having to rinse off after, if you drill down in those above links, to the "how to use" part, it says to spray on, let dwell, then proceed with your rinseless or waterless wash. We'll have to see if the acidic and alkaline are supposed to be used sequentially, or separately.
PS It looks like the Labo USA site is getting ready for this, because they are adding some wording about Preludio to the Idrosave page, it shows up in a google search but not on the actual page.
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05-14-2024, 11:08 AM
#744
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Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
Holy cow, Preludio is here??
Maybe you missed it, but when Idrosave was introduced, Reggy from Labo was on a podcast, I think it was EC Details, and he stated that Idrosave was supposed to be part of a 3pH rinseless system, but the other two components were taking too long, so they decided to release the Idrosave by itself. He did say then or elsewhere that the pre-wash part was called Preludio, and that there would be an acidic and an alkaline version.
EDIT: It looks like the alkaline is out also, although these don't seem to actually be available yet: PRELUDIO ALKALINE - #LABOCOSMETICA - EN - NEW
Oh, and just to more fully explain, these would be like using Touchless or something like that, but not having to rinse off after, if you drill down in those above links, to the "how to use" part, it says to spray on, let dwell, then proceed with your rinseless or waterless wash. We'll have to see if the acidic and alkaline are supposed to be used sequentially, or separately.
PS It looks like the Labo USA site is getting ready for this, because they are adding some wording about Preludio to the Idrosave page, it shows up in a google search but not on the actual page.
I had a very good user experience just using Idrosave
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05-14-2024, 11:27 AM
#745
Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
Holy cow, Preludio is here??
Maybe you missed it, but when Idrosave was introduced, Reggy from Labo was on a podcast, I think it was EC Details, and he stated that Idrosave was supposed to be part of a 3pH rinseless system, but the other two components were taking too long, so they decided to release the Idrosave by itself. He did say then or elsewhere that the pre-wash part was called Preludio, and that there would be an acidic and an alkaline version.
EDIT: It looks like the alkaline is out also, although these don't seem to actually be available yet: PRELUDIO ALKALINE - #LABOCOSMETICA - EN - NEW
Oh, and just to more fully explain, these would be like using Touchless or something like that, but not having to rinse off after, if you drill down in those above links, to the "how to use" part, it says to spray on, let dwell, then proceed with your rinseless or waterless wash. We'll have to see if the acidic and alkaline are supposed to be used sequentially, or separately.
PS It looks like the Labo USA site is getting ready for this, because they are adding some wording about Preludio to the Idrosave page, it shows up in a google search but not on the actual page.
So with the acidic and alkaline pieces aside, I'm just picturing the Adam's foam and rinseless multistep process here. The big complaint there was it was a mess (naturally given it was a pre-foam before rinseless).
A 3-step rinseless seems to be over-engineering things here. It'll be interesting to get some actual reviews since Idrosave has good/bad after so much hype died down.
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05-14-2024, 11:42 AM
#746
Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
Originally Posted by Uncbrs
A 3-step rinseless seems to be over-engineering things here.
A quick read thru the blurb seemed to be more like a 2-step, they didn't seem to be saying use both the acid and alkaline, it seemed like one or the other depending on what you were trying to remove.
Just to play devil's advocate--is the 3pH conventional over-engineering?
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05-14-2024, 01:46 PM
#747
Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
A quick read thru the blurb seemed to be more like a 2-step, they didn't seem to be saying use both the acid and alkaline, it seemed like one or the other depending on what you were trying to remove.
Just to play devil's advocate--is the 3pH conventional over-engineering?
The true devil's advocate here is... isn't everything most of us do over-engineering?!
I won't judge anything until I use it and I've yet to use the other 3pH. I have it all sitting there waiting to be used just haven't yet. I think I haven't used it yet because it feels like a lot in a normal wash routine for how dirty (or not dirty) my vehicles typically are. BH Touchless or Auto Foam usually covers me as a pre-wash.
I'm not against a 2-step (or even 3-step I suppose) rinseless by any means... I'm sure I'll find the right time, place, mindset for it someday.
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05-14-2024, 07:04 PM
#748
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Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
Originally Posted by Uncbrs
The true devil's advocate here is... isn't everything most of us do over-engineering?!
Methinks you might be onto something
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05-15-2024, 02:02 PM
#749
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Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
This guy did a simple test and Absolute lacked in cleaning power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUUFVtXleqY
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05-15-2024, 06:55 PM
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Re: Rinseless Washes - 2022
Originally Posted by CleanIT
This guy did a simple test and Absolute lacked in cleaning power.
I coulda told ya that
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