ONR question

**rmcnamara** · 11-21-2016, 08:59 PM

Does ONR leave anything behind after a wash?

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**Setec Astronomy** · 11-21-2016, 09:01 PM

Oh boy. What are you concerned about?

**rmcnamara** · 11-21-2016, 09:14 PM

Basically looking to see if it is like d114. The main reason why people seemed to like it was because it didn't leave anything behind.

I didn't get on the d114 bandwagon before they discontinued it.

Thanks

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**The Guz** · 11-21-2016, 09:18 PM

Leaves a little amount of polymers behind.

**BudgetPlan1** · 11-21-2016, 09:19 PM

Poorboy Spay and Wipe doesn't leave anything behind I believe.

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**Setec Astronomy** · 11-21-2016, 09:22 PM

I'm not really in the camp that thinks this is important. ONR is not a rinseless that has a "wax" in it...and whatever it leaves behind doesn't interfere with anything else you would do, short of a coating, in which case you would be doing some sort of wipedown (as you would even if you were using D114). If you're hung up on this, PBMG is working on a D114 replacement; since they are doing Beta testing now, I'd look for it in January or February.

**58LesPaul** · 11-21-2016, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1

Poorboy Spay and Wipe doesn't leave anything behind I believe.

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Sounds to me like Spay and wipe would remove stuff.

**Setec Astronomy** · 11-21-2016, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by BudgetPlan1

Poorboy Spay and Wipe doesn't leave anything behind I believe.

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I would hazard a guess it leaves as much or more behind as ONR, although I haven't used it in a while.

**osiapstndp** · 11-21-2016, 10:30 PM

Originally Posted by rmcnamara

Basically looking to see if it is like d114. The main reason why people seemed to like it was because it didn't leave anything behind.

I didn't get on the d114 bandwagon before they discontinued it.

Thanks

In regard to a comparison between D114 and ONR, lately I have been using the latter as a substitute for the former. ONR may not be a one-to-one replacement for D114, but it fulfills a similar function - clean a surface and not much else.

Last week I used M205 to reduce minor defects on my Challenger. I only had a couple hours (maybe less) a night to do it and it ended up taking three or four days.

At the beginning of each session the vehicle was "dirty" with 24 hours' worth of dust and miscellaneous debris build-up. This caused me to have to clean the paintwork before I could work on my little enhancement job. I chose to use regular ONR Wash and Shine to pre-soak and rinseless wash every section that needed attention that evening.

Did ONR "leave behind" anything to hinder the polishing process? Absolutely not. Did it harm the application and bonding of the wax that eventually saw each surface? Well, if it did I'll eat my hat.

To reiterate, ONR isn't the same as D114, but it can preform similarly as a preparatory product prior to refinishing or enchantment jobs.

**AZpolisher15** · 11-21-2016, 10:37 PM

WG Uber Rinseless has never left enough of anything behind to affect any of the LSP's (sealants/waxes) I've applied in the last 8 months. They all seem to have looked and held up just fine, although like many around here, I'm not pushing their limits. Does Uber leave something behind? Uh-huh. Gloss!