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Clear Coat Failure or Water Spot Damage
Having a hard time identifying the paint type on my car. I believe it is single stage if it is factory paint but the paint damage makes me question it.
I tried claying the damage in pic 1 and there were no improvement. I thought it was clear coat failure I thought clear coat failure would resemble the chalky texture in pic 2
Pic 1
Pic 2
Anyone with experience can chime in?
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It looks to me like water spot(s). Especially if its single stage like you mention.
2013 Honda Accord Touring - Crystal Black Pearl/Black
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Re: Clear Coat Failure or Water Spot Damage
The hood looks like bird-poop damage to me. The bumper has CC failure.
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Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
The hood looks like bird-poop damage to me. The bumper has CC failure.
:facepalm:
I should have said "doesn't look like CC failure", since that's what I meant... LOL
2013 Honda Accord Touring - Crystal Black Pearl/Black
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Originally Posted by erichaley
:facepalm:
I should have said "doesn't look like CC failure", since that's what I meant... LOL
seriously. now that you mentioned bird poop that's more depressing! =( jk lol
is bird poop correctable?
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Originally Posted by bmwstephen
is bird poop correctable?
Not that one.
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Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy
Not that one.
I've tried doing some researching on the issue. indeed it is bird poop but a lot of the consensus seems that it is irreparable with clear coat finishes but how about single stage? would you say the damage is down to the primer.
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The problem you show in this picture is the age old problem of urethane/flexible body parts.
From my understanding, the paint on these parts just doesn't last as long as the paint on the rigid body panels due to the flex agent added to the paint to counter the flexible characteristic of these types of parts.
What I see is cracking or fissures in the paint caused by flexing and paint failure over time. This is just one more reason I gravitate towards classics made without plastic.
Anotherreallyl common problem with urethane parts is the fading that takes place to the basecoat. I can't count how many C4 Corvettes I've seen or worked on in my life where the urethane parts a a few shades lighter than the rest of the body panels andbecausee the basecoat, (the faded part), is under the clear coat, no amount of buffing with any company's products will undo the damage.
Try compounding orpolishingg the bird dropping etching a little and you should be able to improve it at least a little. Looks like the entire car might be ready for some detail work.
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Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek
The problem you show in this picture is the age old problem of urethane/flexible body parts.
From my understanding, the paint on these parts just doesn't last as long as the paint on the rigid body panels due to the flex agent added to the paint to counter the flexible characteristic of these types of parts.
What I see is cracking or fissures in the paint caused by flexing and paint failure over time. This is just one more reason I gravitate towards classics made without plastic.
Anotherreallyl common problem with urethane parts is the fading that takes place to the basecoat. I can't count how many C4 Corvettes I've seen or worked on in my life where the urethane parts a a few shades lighter than the rest of the body panels andbecausee the basecoat, (the faded part), is under the clear coat, no amount of buffing with any company's products will undo the damage.
Try compounding orpolishingg the bird dropping etching a little and you should be able to improve it at least a little. Looks like the entire car might be ready for some detail work.
Thanks Mike! Indeed it is way overdue for a full detail but I'm tackling it one step at a time due because the car is all original including the single stage paint. In fact, I purchased it because I learned to love SS paint through your research and teachings in this forum.
Could you elaborate on the inherent issues of flex additive and paint? Are you saying that they make the paint less reliable over time?
The bumpers will get resprayed to urethane SS regardless to match with the rest of the car. For some cost cutting reasons, BMW decided to paint their black bumpers with b/c despite the rest of the car being SS as a cost cutting measure in the early 90's as they began switching to b/c
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