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    Re: New Wolfgang Ceramics vs DPGS hood test!

    Just an FYI: WG CSC made it alive through claying (BF Clay mitt) using Pure Rinseless as the lubricant, and through Mckees Prep Wash. It was hurting, but definitely alive to some degree, Iíll guess 80% dead.

    WG SiO2 Sealant was partially alive after all this but I would say 95% dead.

    I didnít take pictures as I didnít have my phone on me and had my mind on the mission of prepping for polishing.

    Not bad. Everything else was completely flat.

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    Re: New Wolfgang Ceramics vs DPGS hood test!

    Dang, WG CSC has some definite staying power after going through all that and still showing some signs of life. Thank you for sharing!

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    Re: New Wolfgang Ceramics vs DPGS hood test!

    acuRAS82 great thread!!!!
    I kinda came late to it!!!

    after reading it all it made me ask a couple questions:

    1. Do you think WGCSC performance on the hood was affected in the lower portion due to the PBL coating underneath, so it performs better by itself like it was on the roof???

    2. Do you think WGCSC can survive the year they claim???

    3. Do you think there is a benefit stacking WGSiO2PS topping it with WGCSC???

    4. I dont find anywhere a claimed durability for WSiO2PS, do you know what it is???

    5. I wonder how WGSiO2PS compare to FK-1000P, do you plan doing this comparison???

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    Re: New Wolfgang Ceramics vs DPGS hood test!

    Quote Originally Posted by gorillapr View Post
    acuRAS82 great thread!!!!
    I kinda came late to it!!!

    after reading it all it made me ask a couple questions:

    1. Do you think WGCSC performance on the hood was affected in the lower portion due to the PBL coating underneath, so it performs better by itself like it was on the roof???

    2. Do you think WGCSC can survive the year they claim???

    3. Do you think there is a benefit stacking WGSiO2PS topping it with WGCSC???

    4. I dont find anywhere a claimed durability for WSiO2PS, do you know what it is???

    5. I wonder how WGSiO2PS compare to FK-1000P, do you plan doing this comparison???

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    1) I do think WG CSC could have been impacted by PBL Surface Coating underneath, but even more so, I believe temperature during application and curing period impacted WG CSC and PBL. The products were applied before the weather stayed warm at nights. I have gotten much better up front performance in the below test which was begun in June and cured during warm weather throughout.
    SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant comparison test

    2) I don’t think WG CSC will survive a year unless on a garage queen or some sort of perfect, mild weather area with very little contamination present. I would think 6 mo the is realistic based on my latest test which is at 3 and going strong. And I have been on record saying it’s so easy to apply that you might as well put it on every few months just to keep things fresh, it’s one of the easier spray ceramics to apply. Maybe 15-20 mins for the BMW and although it’s not a fact, I would guess you could apply this as a drying aid if the car was 80% dry and it would still perform well as a topper on itself.

    3) I don’t know if there is benefit stacking PS on CSC or vice versus, but I don’t think it would hurt and each bottle has so many applications, I wouldn’t be concerned wasting product to try it. They are both very nice. Arguments can be made for either order of stacking. Same company, WG products tend to be synergetic with each other. I could see some potential there (for instance the sealant helping resist etching while the spray could aid in water behavior and easy application updates).

    4) There’s no claim I’ve found for WG SiO2 PS durability, however, general, conservative consensus from us forum members would be that it lasts as long as DGPS with the added benefits of self-cleaning that SiO2 ingredients clearly provide.

    5) I compared WG SiO2 PS with FK1000p on my trunk in the below thread. I did not get the same stellar results with 1 coat of FK (first time using it) as others have. It wasn’t a slouch but it didn’t keep up with WG or PNS as far as water behavior. Kind of wish I did two coats for the test. The same thread below can also be found on Autopia forum for further commentary.
    Wolfgang SiO2 Paint Sealant versus Traditional Sealants - Test!

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    Re: New Wolfgang Ceramics vs DPGS hood test!

    I think the Wolfgang will last longer than 6 months with ceramic maintenance washes or boosters. Most people on the forums will end up topping it with something even if it's just a wash and wax product.

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    Re: New Wolfgang Ceramics vs DPGS hood test!

    Quote Originally Posted by acuRAS82 View Post
    1) I do think WG CSC could have been impacted by PBL Surface Coating underneath, but even more so, I believe temperature during application and curing period impacted WG CSC and PBL. The products were applied before the weather stayed warm at nights. I have gotten much better up front performance in the below test which was begun in June and cured during warm weather throughout.
    SiO2 Ceramic Spray Sealant comparison test

    2) I donít think WG CSC will survive a year unless on a garage queen or some sort of perfect, mild weather area with very little contamination present. I would think 6 mo the is realistic based on my latest test which is at 3 and going strong. And I have been on record saying itís so easy to apply that you might as well put it on every few months just to keep things fresh, itís one of the easier spray ceramics to apply. Maybe 15-20 mins for the BMW and although itís not a fact, I would guess you could apply this as a drying aid if the car was 80% dry and it would still perform well as a topper on itself.

    3) I donít know if there is benefit stacking PS on CSC or vice versus, but I donít think it would hurt and each bottle has so many applications, I wouldnít be concerned wasting product to try it. They are both very nice. Arguments can be made for either order of stacking. Same company, WG products tend to be synergetic with each other. I could see some potential there (for instance the sealant helping resist etching while the spray could aid in water behavior and easy application updates).

    4) Thereís no claim Iíve found for WG SiO2 PS durability, however, general, conservative consensus from us forum members would be that it lasts as long as DGPS with the added benefits of self-cleaning that SiO2 ingredients clearly provide.

    5) I compared WG SiO2 PS with FK1000p on my trunk in the below thread. I did not get the same stellar results with 1 coat of FK (first time using it) as others have. It wasnít a slouch but it didnít keep up with WG or PNS as far as water behavior. Kind of wish I did two coats for the test. The same thread below can also be found on Autopia forum for further commentary.
    Wolfgang SiO2 Paint Sealant versus Traditional Sealants - Test!
    Amazing man!

    You answer everything with great detail and it is appreciated.

    I think using PS topping it with SC every 2-3 months would be an outstanding combo able to compete with Ceramic Lite like Carpro or Gyeon...


    If Im not mistaken, you said the PS looks better than the SC???

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    Re: New Wolfgang Ceramics vs DPGS hood test!

    Quote Originally Posted by gorillapr View Post
    Amazing man!

    You answer everything with great detail and it is appreciated.
    You’re welcome. I’m glad if it helped.

    Quote Originally Posted by gorillapr View Post
    If Im not mistaken, you said the PS looks better than the SC???
    I personally liked the WG SiO2 look, it caught my eye as being darker and richer. Both darken the paint as SiO2 products generally do, it was easy to see next to DGPS. But take it for what it is, I have only applied these on sections. Both look stellar, both behave great, but in the head to head the WG SiO2 PS subsection grabbed my eyes first.

    Note others who have applied WG SiO2 PS to their whole vehicles have raved about the gloss.

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    Re: New Wolfgang Ceramics vs DPGS hood test!

    Nice!!!
    Thanks again and keep doing comparisons like this, I really enjoy them and Im sure the community too

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