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    Re: Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    I cannot vouch for Ultima but I use Wolfgang Uber on a regular basis and I love it. I look for cleaning power and lubricity in a rinseless wash and not necessarily anti-static or hydroponic properties. Most of us are brand loyal so use what you like and what you feel comfortable paying for. For me its Wolfgang Uber.

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    Re: Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    I mainly use UWW+ as a drying aid or waterless wash, but I've used it a number of times as a rinseless and it also works great. However the dilution isn't very cost-effective, so I'll be grabbing a bottle of tried-and-true ONR at some point.

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    Re: Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    Quote Originally Posted by derass View Post
    I mainly use UWW+ as a drying aid or waterless wash, but I've used it a number of times as a rinseless and it also works great. However the dilution isn't very cost-effective, so I'll be grabbing a bottle of tried-and-true ONR at some point.
    ONR - Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine 32oz. - $15.99 and yields 4 gallons of detail spray.

    UWW+ Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+ 16oz. - $20.99 and yields 5+ gallons of waterless wash.

    UWW+ is actually the more cost effective option between the 2. It’s also labeled as a dedicated waterless wash as opposed to a “detail spray”

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    Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    ...Well actually they’re about dead even if you do the math. However, we all know waterless wash is more expensive than detail spray, so you get more bang for your buck with UWW+ Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

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    Re: Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    Sorry, I meant buying ONR for rinseless washes. I do want to keep UWW+ as my drying aid / waterless, I really like it.

    Is ONR any more cost-effective as a rinseless? Or still about the same?

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    Re: Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    Quote Originally Posted by derass View Post
    Sorry, I meant buying ONR for rinseless washes. I do want to keep UWW+ as my drying aid / waterless, I really like it.

    Is ONR any more cost-effective as a rinseless?
    Ahh ok.

    ...And I dunno, I haven’t thought that far. It’s your turn to do the math. Lol.

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    Re: Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    I used ONR as a rinseless wash from the time it was first introduced until a couple of years ago when I tried UWW+ and have never gone back to ONR. IMO UWW+ adds more lubricity during a rinseless wash itself, leaves more slickness behind and doesn't stain the wash media. At waterless wash concentration it also makes a fantastic clay lube because of the extreme slickness.

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    Re: Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    Ultima Acrylic seems to be doing a better job of keeping the dust/pollen off the car. Here's to hoping that's true - if it is, I'll be buying it once Uber is used up.

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    Re: Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    ONR - Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine 32oz. - $15.99 and yields 4 gallons of detail spray.

    UWW+ Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+ 16oz. - $20.99 and yields 5+ gallons of waterless wash.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    It’s your turn to do the math. Lol.
    haha you're right! here they are for rinseless washes:

    Ultima 16oz $20.99
    1oz per 3 gal water
    3x16=48 gal rinseless soln
    $20.99/48 gal = $0.44 / gal

    ONR 32oz $15.99
    1oz per 2 gal
    2x32=64 gal
    $15.99/64 = $0.25 / gal

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    Re: Wolfgang Uber versus Ulitma

    I haven't compared the two but I do like Uber Rinseless wash on non coated vehicles. Reason I say non coated is that in my testing the gloss enhancers have effected the hydrophobics on one of my personal vehicles on multiple occasions so I can't use it but on other vehicles. That being said it's a great rinseless wash. I mainly use N914 now.
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