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    Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

    Would you say that this is just to dangerous to do on factory clear coat? My car has always had orange peel in the factory paint. I swear I greatly improved it with just compound on part of 2 panels where it bothered me the most. I'm contemplating trying it on the doors with 3000 and or 5000?


    Also I'm picking up my car from the bodyshop monday. After 30 days do you think I will definitely have to wet sand it or can compound sometimes be enough? What grit should I use if I do?

    I'm not afraid I wetsanded out a huge scratch in my hood when I first got the car and on on the shelf of the back bumper. I did it with a piece of 2000 that came in a scratch repair kit. That was 2 years ago right when I started detailing. It definitely worked. It took compound too but there is no trace of the hood scratch anymore.

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    Re: Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

    Quote Originally Posted by fightnews View Post
    I'm picking up my car from the bodyshop
    monday. After 30 days do you think I will
    definitely have to wet sand it or can co-
    pound sometimes be enough? What grit
    should I use if I do?
    •To paraphrase Mike Phillips:
    -Its the “cut & buff” that makes,
    or breaks, the paint job.”

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    •Did you request that the body shop not
    perform any wet-sanding/compounding on
    their paint job for your car!?!?

    -Would you actually pay for, and accept, a
    paint job that you would have to wet-sand
    30 days down the road?

    -Then, for good measure, there is
    this to take into consideration:

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    Yes but not everyone is a cheapskate bob
    Pot; Kettle?



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    Re: Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

    Well it really depends on how well you maintain the car and if you think heavy compounding and polishing will be needed in the future. For example my personal 06 gto I blocked it out with 2500 and 3000 to remove the factory orange peel. Being that I properly maintain the paint I knew that it probably wouldn't ever need a full correction again. And it definitely made the paint job. But I do show the car a lot and its good advertising for my business. You just need to ask yourself is the risk worth the reward.

    That being said I have had the occasional client ask about orange peel removal on there new car and I won't do it as factory clear is thin like a post it note like Mike P. mentions. And they most likely won't maintain it to the proper standards. Full repaints from a quality body shop different as there is typically more than enough clear coat to allow proper finishing.
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    Re: Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    •To paraphrase Mike Phillips:
    -Its the “cut & buff” that makes,
    or breaks, the paint job.”

    *********************************

    •Did you request that the body shop not
    perform any wet-sanding/compounding on
    their paint job for your car!?!?

    -Would you actually pay for, and accept, a
    paint job that you would have to wet-sand
    30 days down the road?

    -Then, for good measure, there is
    this to take into consideration:


    Pot; Kettle?



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    No and Yes if I asked for it. But there is a middle ground believe it or not. What if I told you the autobody shop can do an initial cut and buff and get to an acceptable standard. The if I chose to I could do it again to achieve perfection?

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    Re: Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin at Final Inspection View Post
    Well it really depends on how well you maintain the car and if you think heavy compounding and polishing will be needed in the future. For example my personal 06 gto I blocked it out with 2500 and 3000 to remove the factory orange peel. Being that I properly maintain the paint I knew that it probably wouldn't ever need a full correction again. And it definitely made the paint job. But I do show the car a lot and its good advertising for my business. You just need to ask yourself is the risk worth the reward.

    That being said I have had the occasional client ask about orange peel removal on there new car and I won't do it as factory clear is thin like a post it note like Mike P. mentions. And they most likely won't maintain it to the proper standards. Full repaints from a quality body shop different as there is typically more than enough clear coat to allow proper finishing.
    What if I just used 5000 grit

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    Re: Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

    Mike Phillips ---

    I'd really like your opinion on the effectiveness of starting a colorsand with 3000.

    RSW

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    Re: Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

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    I'd really like your opinion on the effectiveness of starting a colorsand with 3000.

    RSW
    I'd be interested to hear Mike's take on this too. I just finished a full cut and buff using trizact 1500/3000 and IMHO it would take a LONG time and A LOT of paper to cut down OP with only 3000.

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    Re: Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

    You may want to look into Carpro Denim pads. Supposedly they remove orange peel pretty well
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    Re: Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin at Final Inspection View Post
    You may want to look into Carpro Denim pads. Supposedly they remove orange peel pretty well
    I've heard that these work as well, but that the process takes a long long time.

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    Re: Wet sanding with 3000 grit?

    Hum...

    I remember a video explaining that 3000 grit will not remove orange peel. I think it was either from Larry Kozilla and Kevin Brown or with Mike Philipps and Jason Rose... I just can't remember who made it...

    anyway. To remove the orange peel they went to 1500, then up to 3000 and compound and polish. I also had a client who removed Orange peel with a denim pad and it took him an ungodly amount of time to do it... something like 30 hours if I recall correctly.

    So my advice would be to take a paint depth reading to see if you have enough paint to do the work safelly, then block with 1500 (or 2000, or even 2500). If you manage to do it with 2500 or even 2000, you probably can go directly to compound, but at 1500 I suggest you follow with 3000 to save time, unless you machine+pad+compound is agresssive enough to take out 1500 grit scratches quickly.

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