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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

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    If this is your claim, then is it correct to say that the Rupes possesses the same or more risk factor as that of a rotary since it has better cutting power?
    Well not exactly. Yes you can remove clearcoat much but to burn paint with da is much more unlikely with da because the pad makes two kind motion. With rotary you are only spinning the pad and it creates more heat.

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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

    Quote Originally Posted by Joel1979 View Post
    Well not exactly. Yes you can remove clearcoat much but to burn paint with da is much more unlikely with da because the pad makes two kind motion. With rotary you are only spinning the pad and it creates more heat.
    But now you're assuming again that the rotary operator is making mistakes.

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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

    Quote Originally Posted by jslym777 View Post
    But now you're assuming again that the rotary operator is making mistakes.
    And you are assuming that the Rupes operator is making mistakes. Cutting paint and burning paint is two different things.

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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

    Quote Originally Posted by Joel1979 View Post
    And you are assuming that the Rupes operator is making mistakes. Cutting paint and burning paint is two different things.
    Im not assuming any mistakes on either side. I said in an earlier post to take ANY error out of the equation and assume the operator is proficient at both tools.

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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

    Quote Originally Posted by Joel1979 View Post
    Well not exactly. Yes you can remove clearcoat much but to burn paint with da is much more unlikely with da because the pad makes two kind motion. With rotary you are only spinning the pad and it creates more heat.
    Burning through paint when cutting with a rotary and wool/lambswool pad is sort of a non issue for those of us proficient with the rotary. Detailers as a whole are not only more educated on proper techniques, but the rotary polishers are now capable of being dialed down to 600rpm's. Also, modern cutting compounds don't dry up as quickly and provide more lubrication which helps to keep the paint cooler throughout the cutting process.

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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

    Quote Originally Posted by mwoywod View Post
    Burning through paint when cutting with a rotary and wool/lambswool pad is sort of a non issue for those of us proficient with the rotary. Detailers as a whole are not only more educated on proper techniques, but the rotary polishers are now capable of being dialed down to 600rpm's. Also, modern cutting compounds don't dry up as quickly and provide more lubrication which helps to keep the paint cooler throughout the cutting process.
    I know this and i also have Festool Shinex on my arsenal.

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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

    My main post is to discuss the claims of the DA vs a Rotary in terms of a compound job (2 step) and tool or tool combination that is most efficient, assuming no operator error.

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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

    Personally for 2-step compounding jobs I always use rotary and either the LC Lambswool cutting pads or Hybrid Wool pads for my initial cutting step. Because it finishes so well, for my second step I generally use a GG6 and a white polishing pad with HD Polish+.

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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

    Well it really depends on how bad the vehicle is honestly, if it's real bad i would just rotary cut it and then da but
    if it's not that bad and you want to save clear the da can preety much achieve what a rotary can imo.. but in the end it's honestly just
    opinion of what you like and prefer. The da will be the safest and still preety close to the rotary with everything out now a days but
    not to say that theres no need for a rotary. Also not everything needs to be cut with a wool pad and rotary or microfiber and a serious cutting agent.
    My choice is the da most of the time but do love to use rotary.

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    Re: Rotary VS Dual Action for Compounding

    Quote Originally Posted by jslym777 View Post
    My main post is to discuss the claims of the DA vs a Rotary in terms of a compound job (2 step) and tool or tool combination that is most efficient, assuming no operator error.
    You need to be more specific as to what kind of d/a, and to how It's set up.

    You talking random orbital (what orbit stroke?) or forced? You talking microfiber / wool pads and heavy cut compound? New, modern compounds, or old technology.

    Give specifics.

    It comes off like you already know your answer and are looking for a fight.

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