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    Single stage??

    Does anyone know if a 2012 Genesis Coupe Pure White is a single stage?? It looks like it...

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    I don't know for sure but one way you could check is by taking some paint cleaner on a dark colored towel and rubbing one section if you see paint transfer then its single if there's no transfer its clear coated...hope this help

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    Re: Single stage??

    Testing for single stage white paint is kind of tricky but I explain how here....


    How to Test for Single Stage or Clear Coat Paint




    FWIW

    I had to test a 1981 Corvette today that is cream in color and even using a white applicator and white colored polish you still have to look to see the color.

    If you get to machine compounding this paint it will become very apparant.


    Here's some pics from a write-up I posted after buffing out an old RR


    I did my Test Spot on the hood of this car and noticed real quick when I started buffing the trunk lid that it had single stage paint instead of a basecoat/clearcoat finish like the rest of the car.

    1956 Rolls Royce Silver Cloud - Clearcoat finish except the Trunk Lid which has single stage paint.




    Here's what my buffing pad looked like after buffing the trunk lid. That's white paint on a maroon pad.






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    Re: Single stage??

    Interestingly enough, color transfer to a buffing pad can confirm single stage paint, but the absence of color transfer does not necessarily mean that it's not single stage.

    I confirmed this recently with my single stage white Toyota (~14 years old), which (so far anyway) has not shown any color transfer, but I verified it is single stage by calling toyota and talking to a paint specialist who verified it's single stage by the VIN . Others have had the same experience, with confirmed single stage paint but no color transfer.

    I'm not saying I'll *never* see color transfer, just that I (and others) have buffed and not seen any on paint that was in generally good to excellent condition to start with. It's strange and goes against all that I had previously read, but it is what it is.

    So the OP may want to call the manufacturer with your VIN number handy, and ask to talk to a paint expert. No guarantees it will work since some customer service is just not very helpful, but worth a try.

    edit: link to my previous thread on Toyota white SS: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...-question.html

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    Re: Single stage??

    Quote Originally Posted by SR99 View Post
    Interestingly enough, color transfer to a buffing pad can confirm single stage paint, but the absence of color transfer does not necessarily mean that it's not single stage.

    I confirmed this recently with my single stage white Toyota (~14 years old), which (so far anyway) has not shown any color transfer, but I verified it is single stage by calling toyota and talking to a paint specialist who verified it's single stage by the VIN . Others have had the same experience, with confirmed single stage paint but no color transfer.

    I'm not saying I'll *never* see color transfer, just that I (and others) have buffed and not seen any on paint that was in generally good to excellent condition to start with. It's strange and goes against all that I had previously read, but it is what it is.

    So the OP may want to call the manufacturer with your VIN number handy, and ask to talk to a paint expert. No guarantees it will work since some customer service is just not very helpful, but worth a try.
    Maybe you are polishing with white pads and cloths. If you remove enough material, you will see the color of the single stage paint on the pad or cloth you are using, because that is the color of the paint, and removal of material WILL transfer color.
    Your pad and or polish must be a contrasting color in order to see color transfer. Maybe your polish is white.

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    Re: Single stage??

    Thanks for the responses. It is base/clear and rock hard.

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