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Re: Essence extreme gloss...guess I'm the odd one out
Nice job. Try using less Essence and buff until it disappears into the paint. Very little to wipe off.
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Re: Essence extreme gloss...guess I'm the odd one out
Originally Posted by Rsurfer
Nice job. Try using less Essence and buff until it disappears into the paint. Very little to wipe off.
Ok, I'll give that a go.
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Re: Essence extreme gloss...guess I'm the odd one out
Originally Posted by Newdetailer1
Ok, I'll give that a go.
I used very little and got the same results, spots that hardened up and had to be rebuffed. Also, not impressed with minimal correction results.
I give it a 7 on a 1-10 scale.
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Re: Essence extreme gloss...guess I'm the odd one out
If you overwork the polish you will have issues. When used properly it can't be beat for a finishing polish.
- 3-4 pea sized drops spread over 2x2 section
- 2 slow section passes at speed 4 with light pressure
- 1 section pass on speed 3
Very little will be left for wipe off.
I use CPro Gloss Pads or Rupes White pads.
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Re: Essence extreme gloss...guess I'm the odd one out
Atm I only reach for essence for 2 situations. I'm either applying it as a primer for CQUARTZ or using it as a 3rd step for any black paint. Metallic or not.
I prime it and can use 2-3 pea size dots or just load up the pad doesn't matter. Spread it out and work it over the section or panel. It does not like to be overworked or heat. That's when dry smears show up or hard to remove residue. The reason I use it as a 3rd step for all black paints is because there's always this slight haze that even after refining it there's room for improvement. Wipes off extremely easy like a paint sealant when used correctly in buffing cycle to help reduce chance of micro marring with last step wipe off.
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Re: Essence extreme gloss...guess I'm the odd one out
Agree with the previous comments - I think you are over-working the product. With my flex 3401 I usually do 3 passes. The first 2 around speed 4 or 4.5 with a little bit of pressure and the last, easing up on the pressure and dropping the machine speed to around 3 or 3.5.
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Re: Essence extreme gloss...guess I'm the odd one out
Originally Posted by lane5515
If you overwork the polish you will have issues. When used properly it can't be beat for a finishing polish.
- 3-4 pea sized drops spread over 2x2 section
- 2 slow section passes at speed 4 with light pressure
- 1 section pass on speed 3
Very little will be left for wipe off.
I use CPro Gloss Pads or Rupes White pads.
Agree. The key with essence on the 3401 is you can not go above speed 5. My sweet spot in summer is just one "click" under 5 and I get plenty of working time. I haven't posted many pics lately as I've just been too too busy on so many things but I'll put some up tonight as I used it on the last 4-5 details I've done.
In terms of polish and end results, it's no better IMO than any of the really good ones. IMO I consider Meg's 205 and the Menzerna twins very good. The difference is Essence is a great base for coatings and it does contain some fillers to help with micro marring. I have been using it with both Cquartz and McKee's or in some cases 22PLe with great success on all of them. Our van is coming up on a full year and in last weeks monsoon rains we had, the vehicle performed like it was coated just that week. Even the guy at the repair shop commented on it as we waited for the rain to slow before he got the mileage off it.
With Essence I do about 3-4 passes with slow arm speed. The last pass is done with very little pressure. That's all it takes and it removes with ease. I will state that I don't use it to remove swirls or any imperfections, but rather as post-correction product to sharpen and enhance the gloss after I have corrected the car with a light to medium compound and purple wool pads. The correction leaves only a very very slight haze that on lighter colors is barely if at all noticeable but on reds or darker colors it's there. I only mention this as I've seen others using it as an AIO get frustrated. Again, Essence removes it with super easy effort and the results are outstanding.
2019 Pearl White Accord 2.0T Touring (mine)
2023 Snowflake Pearl White CX-30 Turbo Premium Plus(wife)
2010 Urban Platinum Metallic CRV EX-L & 2014 Mica Black Metallic Toyota Corolla S (kids)
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Re: Essence extreme gloss...guess I'm the odd one out
CarPro Polishes (essence and reflect) are unique, so if you try to use them like a Menzerna or Meguiar's polish, you're going to have a bad time...
- Start with an unprimed pad. Do not prime your pad. Don't think about priming your pad.
- Apply 4-5 small dots of product to your dry pad (you will use just 2-3 small dots after this initial section)
- Spread the product onto your working area by dabbing the pad on the paint, or by doing a very quick pass at low speed
- Work the product at speed 4-5 with firm, but not heavy pressure. Work slowly and make just 2 passes. At this point the product should be broken down and VERY easy to wipe away.
- If needed, make a 3rd pass with a slower speed and no pressure, then wipe away. I would not make any more than 3 passes.
- Clean the pad with a brush after every section.
**Essence works best on firmer polishing pads. My favorite is the Rupes yellow pad.**
I struggled with CarPro Reflect for a while until Corey coached me on how to use the product. Since then I have LOVED Essence and Reflect as they behave in the same manner. Super easy to use, super quick, excellent results.
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Retired Professional Detailer
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Re: Essence extreme gloss...guess I'm the odd one out
Originally Posted by pdqgp
Agree. The key with essence on the 3401 is you can not go above speed 5. My sweet spot in summer is just one "click" under 5 and I get plenty of working time. I haven't posted many pics lately as I've just been too too busy on so many things but I'll put some up tonight as I used it on the last 4-5 details I've done.
In terms of polish and end results, it's no better IMO than any of the really good ones. IMO I consider Meg's 205 and the Menzerna twins very good. The difference is Essence is a great base for coatings and it does contain some fillers to help with micro marring. I have been using it with both Cquartz and McKee's or in some cases 22PLe with great success on all of them. Our van is coming up on a full year and in last weeks monsoon rains we had, the vehicle performed like it was coated just that week. Even the guy at the repair shop commented on it as we waited for the rain to slow before he got the mileage off it.
With Essence I do about 3-4 passes with slow arm speed. The last pass is done with very little pressure. That's all it takes and it removes with ease. I will state that I don't use it to remove swirls or any imperfections, but rather as post-correction product to sharpen and enhance the gloss after I have corrected the car with a light to medium compound and purple wool pads. The correction leaves only a very very slight haze that on lighter colors is barely if at all noticeable but on reds or darker colors it's there. I only mention this as I've seen others using it as an AIO get frustrated. Again, Essence removes it with super easy effort and the results are outstanding.
I personally felt that the Menzerna had a little more gloss over the essence. I get that the essence has the added benefit for you if you are going to a ceramic topper. For me personally I'll take the time on the extra step of needing to wipe down the car with some coating prep after Menzerna for the sake of that extra gloss. With that, I'll give the essence another try later when I redo something on my personal car.
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