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    XMT 360 versus Swirls

    I tried out a new product this month that I've been doing some testing on. I'm getting really really good results with it and I thought it was time to put the stamp of approval on it. I'm sure that Pinnacle could care less what I think about their products, but I really do like to think that I put a product through the rounds before I'll ever recommend it to anybody. My criteria for approval (again, as if Pinnacle cares) is that it must be easy to use. It can't be some 12 step system that costs $20 bucks a bottle before I can get results. Secondly it has to work. I don't like hit and miss results. I want it to perform consistently. The last thing I need professionally is for a product to fail when I need it to work. And lastly it needs to be worth the price. There is too much competition for products out there to have people wasting money and time on crap that doesn't live up to the price tag. So with those things in mind, I am pleased to put my stamp of approval on Pinnacle XMT 360. (no big head here)

    This product was first released a couple months ago and I was so excited to give it a whirl. It was promoted to be the ultimate 'all in one' product that can remove oxidation, remove light swirls, and add polymer protection to your car. Now anything that can do all three of those is a winner in my book. The XMT polishes are very impressive and I had really high expectations for this product. Pinnacle knows they are dealing with a very fanatical market and they have a lot of reputation behind their products. I bought a bottle without any concern that it would fail or disappoint. I just needed to find out what the limits were so that I knew what projects I could use it on.

    The first vehicle I tested it on was definitely an Everest. It was a '92 Mazda POS pickup truck. I had it donated by a neighbor for my OCDetails Spring Cleaning Event. The fifth annual one I might add. Anyway, the goal with this truck was to demonstrate and practice oxidation removal. It had terrible oxidation on it.

    Unfortunately my camera guy failed to operate the camera properly and I didn't get many pictures that show the work. I do have one that you can see the before/after idea. The left side of the fender is not touched and the right side is. I think you can tell the difference with this. Just imagine how much better the pink truck looked when it was bright red again. The owner is actually washing it on a weekly basis at last!



    It handled the oxidation with the greatest of ease. There were just a couple spots that I decided to change pads and go with a little more abrasiveness, but for the most part that entire truck was polished with the Edge 2000 blue pad and XMT 360. I wanted to use a softer pad so I could see the product do as much as possible. I didn't want the results to be because I used a cutting pad and the product be useless. Needless to say, it passed the oxidation removal test.
    We then used it on a BMW M3 and noticed great swirl removal abilities. The Bimmer had really really hard paint and it wasn't really the right job for 360, so it was decided that moderate to heavy swirl damage wasn't it's forte.

    Moving on to the other day when a '97 Audi A4 was dropped off with massive oxidation and swirl damage. I seriously considered the possibility that 360 was not up to the task and just grabbing a medium cutting compound and maybe a yellow pad to make fast work of it, but curiosity got the best of me and I strapped on the blue pad and grabbed the 360. I was honestly not prepared for the results. I did use the green pad for the hood, but the rest of the car was done with the blue pad and XMT 360. I'll just let the pictures do the talking. This first set is the rear fender in the before, durring, and after stages.







    You want to know how long it takes to get results like that? Check this video out and see for yourself. I needed to go over that trunk again with 360 and buff it off a little better, but I've got video of that too.
    Here is another short video of that rear fender. You can really see how effective this product is on swirls. Here is that trunk lid after another pass with XMT 360.

    Just to give you an idea of how bad these swirls actually are, take a look at this closeup.



    I'm sorry for all the ladies and children who might have had to see that image. Terrible neglect... I honestly wasn't expecting what I was using to clear that up, but it did. Much of the swirling must have been in the oxidation, but some of it was in the clear and this product polished it out just fine. Here is one more disturbing picture of the paint. This is where I needed a bit heavier cutting power.



    360 still did the trick as you can see from these 'after' pictures. I waxed it with Pinnacle Liquid Souveran spiked with PolyCharger for a little added boost in durability and appearance. That's a topic for another thread.









    So anyway, the purpose of this post was to hopefully turn you on to a terrific product that could significantly improve the appearance of your car. It does great on fine swirls and even heavier ones. I would very much like to see how it does on the Legacy paint. Based on the tests that I've done with it, I believe that it would be very effective and not leave the hazing that some products can leave behind. With the Edge 2000 blue pad I think it would be just enough bite to cut the swirls without the need to follow up with a lighter polish.

    I bought the XMT 360 from Autogeek.net. The Edge 2000 pads were purchased at DetailCity.com, but are also available at Autogeek. The PC is probably better being bought somewhere else just to save some bucks, but that is up to you. There is that new Extreme Machine to consider too....
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    That is some excellent work, especially knowing how hard Audi's clear coat is.

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    Thank you so much for the review, and I'm sure Pinnacle does value your opinion. After all its opinions that make them change the product to consumer liking. I picked up a bottle of 360 this month and haven't had the time to try it yet. I've been questioning what pad I should use because I of course have swirls on my hood and some scratches around the car. I wanted to go with an AIO polishing solution. I can't believe how much imperfection removal you accomplished with the blue pad and 360. How long did it take to break the polish down?

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    Thanks for that write up cause you are now gonna make me spend more money.Great job on that audi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T
    Thank you so much for the review, and I'm sure Pinnacle does value your opinion. After all its opinions that make them change the product to consumer liking. I picked up a bottle of 360 this month and haven't had the time to try it yet. I've been questioning what pad I should use because I of course have swirls on my hood and some scratches around the car. I wanted to go with an AIO polishing solution. I can't believe how much imperfection removal you accomplished with the blue pad and 360. How long did it take to break the polish down?
    It really didn't take that long. One of those videos is only 3 minutes long and I did half the trunk. It needed a little more time on it to clear up all the problems, but I only spent two hours polishing and waxing that car. It worked very well. Like I said, many of the swirls may have just been in the oxidation and that is why they came out so easily. I was really surprised that it was this effective without hazing. I talked to Dwayne at Autogeek shortly before the first test and he is the one who suggested using the blue pad to eliminate haze and to really see how well the product worked. The hood required the green pad, but it was really messed up. Everything else came out fine with the blue.
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    I enjoyed the video's. I noticed you were moving the PC quickly. Was that just for the video or is that the normal pace you use?

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    Great recovery!
    Great results!
    Thanks for the videos!
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    Very nice write up. You really can't go wrong with 360.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike T
    I enjoyed the video's. I noticed you were moving the PC quickly. Was that just for the video or is that the normal pace you use?
    That wasn't the first panel that I used the PC on, so I already sort of got the hang of how long the product needed to be worked to be effective. Good observation though. Typically you wouldn't move it that fast. When I went over it again I did move it a bit slower to make sure I got the best results.
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    I'm really glad to see this post.. My 360 came in today and I have a truck thats a little rough around the edges to do on monday.. I kind of figured I'd have to 2-step the whole truck, but its definitely not as bad as the pics of that audi, so maybe I'll just be able to get it all with the 360...

    Great pics!

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