autogeekonline car wax, car care and auto detailing forum Autogeek on TV
car wax, car care and auto detailing forumAutogeekonline autogeekonline car wax, car care and auto detailing forum HomeForumBlogAutogeek.net StoreDetailing Classes with Mike PhillipsGalleryDetailing How To's
 
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 25
  1. #1
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Posts
    15
    Post Thanks / Like

    Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    Hello,

    I'd be very grateful for any advice please - I'm a novice and wanted to polish out some minor scratches from my wife's car.

    I used Uno Protect and a yellow wool pad and when I finished, it looked stunning! but now - a few weeks later - I can see pad marks!!!

    Could someone help me understand:

    1. What I did wrong
    2. How I could have told I was doing it at the time given it looked first-class when I just did it
    3. How to avoid doing it again
    4. How to get rid of the marks now

    THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED!
    Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot-img_5195-jpg

  2. #2
    Super Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Pompano Beach, Fl
    Posts
    1,236
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    To put it simply, I would’ve used a less aggressive pad and made more passes… Wool is pretty nuclear, I only use it when I’m trying to clear up wet sanding.
    Glen
    21 BMW X2 M35i

    (old and highly opinionated)

  3. Likes oneheadlite liked this post
  4. #3
    Super Member Bruno Soares's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Southeastern PA
    Posts
    2,175
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    wool pad is very aggressive, definitely need to follow up with a foam pad. You might not have noticed the issues at first due to fillers in Uno Protect, once that wore off you see the true condition.

    Polish again with a foam pad, either yellow foam or white if your paint is soft, then it will look much better. Make sure to use plenty of pads, many beginners think it's possible to do a whole car with 1 pad.
    Bruno Soares


  5. Likes oneheadlite liked this post
  6. #4
    Director of Training Mike Phillips's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Stuart, Florida
    Posts
    50,924
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben4 View Post


    I used Uno Protect and a yellow wool pad and when I finished, it looked stunning! but now - a few weeks later - I can see pad marks!!!
    What did you use as a polisher?

    Regardless - see what I wrote here,

    Fibers are a form of abrasive - Foam Pads vs Microfiber Pads by Mike Phillips



    The way to fix it is to re-do the entire car only this time use a foam polishing pad with the UNO Protect and an orbital polisher.


    I would start by doing a Test Spot to make sure your choice of pad, tool and product removed the defects BEFORE buffing out the entire car.


    If you used a rotary polisher then these would be called holograms. If you used an orbital then this is called micro-marring and the pattern is called shadow-effect.






  7. Thanks ollever thanked for this post
    Likes Bruno Soares, Jayfro, ollever liked this post
  8. #5
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Posts
    15
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    Thank you very much everyone and thanks Mike for your thorough reply!

    I used a Bigfoot 15 RO but I followed the quick detail Rupes advise here: Express Enhancement - [RUPES Replies Season 02 Episode 08] - YouTube

    I guess wool pads were too aggressive but there was no way I could see the marring despite doing a test spot because the Uno Protect hid the marks!

    Do you reckon a white foam pad then? Any suggestion for how much pressure please?

    Thank you again!

  9. #6
    Director of Training Mike Phillips's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Stuart, Florida
    Posts
    50,924
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben4 View Post

    Do you reckon a white foam pad then?
    The RUPES white foam pad is a soft finishing pad - together with the RUPES UNO Protect it "might" remove the micro-marring.

    If it were me? I'd use the yellow RUPES pad and together with the RUPES UNO Protect that should get it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ben4 View Post

    Any suggestion for how much pressure please?
    With any brand of long stroke, free-spinning random orbital polisher the general rule-of-thumb is just light pressure. Basically a little more downward pressure than the weight of the tool. This can be a tick tricky when buffing out vertical panels because at the same time you're pressing the tool against the panel you're also holding the tool up against gravity and moving it.

    Also - watch for pad rotation and pad stalling. I personally find the most effective paint correction with free spinning tools of any brand or throw is with both pad oscillation and pad rotation.

    There's a YouTube video with Todd Helme, myself and Jason Brennen where Todd gives tips and technique to maintain pad rotation.






  10. Likes ollever liked this post
  11. #7
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Posts
    15
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    That’s really helpful, thanks Mike! Top man, have a great day ����

  12. #8
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Posts
    15
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    Hi folks,

    OK - I did as Mike said and used yellow foam pad and Uno Protect and re-did the car. Now it looks stunning again but how can I be sure it won't go back to how it was when the Uno wears off?

    I tried using CarPro Eraser to remove the uno on a test area but it didn't seem to make any visible difference - either it didn't remove it or the yellow pad's done the job... BUT how can I tell?!

    I have also tried looking using a Scangrip light and I can see horizontal marks which are too deep to remove (where my wife has driven through hedges) but no machine marks I can tell. Does this also indicate it's fixed?

    Sorry if this is basic - I am a novice :-)

    Thanks.

    Photos:

    Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot-img1-jpgHelp! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot-img2-jpgHelp! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot-img_5304-jpg

  13. Likes ollever liked this post
  14. #9
    Super Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Posts
    382
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    Enjoy it while it looks good. If you notice it again when the Uno Protect wears, come back.

  15. Likes fly07sti liked this post
  16. #10
    Newbie Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2020
    Posts
    15
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Help! I made a bit of a mess with a Bigfoot

    Thanks Texchappy - it does look great... and I'm very happy.

    The thing is I'm trying to learn and if I did a friend's car or family member, I would hate for me to finish an then problems become apparent two weeks later :/]

    I just don't know how to tell or if the reason I can't tell is because I fixed the issue!!!

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Ziebart made a mess of a brand new truck
    By Hoytman in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 09-13-2014, 11:17 PM
  2. Dealership made a huge mess >:(
    By SiliconX in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 06-19-2014, 02:42 PM
  3. OYE! Just made a mess of my friends spoiler
    By dcjredline in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-10-2014, 03:06 PM
  4. Made a mess already :*o
    By gsf in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 09-09-2009, 03:59 PM
  5. Made a little mess
    By Fanged03 in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 11-06-2007, 08:05 PM

Members who have read this thread: 95

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» December 2021

S M T W T F S
282930 1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31 1