What am I doing wrong :( Holograms after using a rotary buffer

[bogdansbg]

Pretty nice, how long did it take to make the black one ?
Did you check at halogen lamp the scratches ? The halogen never lies

[Mike Phillips]

Looks great!

Just to recap for others following in your shoes...

You started out using ONLY a rotary buffer...

What polisher are you using?

Makita

You were having problems with holograms and asked for help and suggestions.

Next, you obtained what looks like the new PC 7424XP Dual Action Polisher and tried again starting with the rotary buffer but finishing with the dual action polisher and now you're getting the results you were looking for?

This is what I did. SIP at 1700rpm on the Makita,

106FA 5-6, 85rd 5-6, both with PC starting with moderate pressure then lightening up

It's possible to get 100% swirl free results using only a rotary buffer but it's not always easy and sometimes it doesn't matter how great the products are, the pads or the person, sometimes it's about the paint. Some paints are not as easily polished as others and you never really know until you start doing some testing.

DA style polishers, after using a rotary buffer to do the majority of the work step, and here's the key word... insures a swirl free finish.

Nice work and thank you for the follow-up.

[Chatelaine]

Pretty nice, how long did it take to make the black one ?
Did you check at halogen lamp the scratches ? The halogen never lies

Yes I have one, this was taken only after the SIP treatment with the makitta. I didn't take a close up after the 106 and 85, but I guess I can as the car is here still

Looks great!

Just to recap for others following in your shoes...

You started out using ONLY a rotary buffer...







You were having problems with holograms and asked for help and suggestions.

Next, you obtained what looks like the new PC 7424XP Dual Action Polisher and tried again starting with the rotary buffer but finishing with the dual action polisher and now you're getting the results you were looking for?




It's possible to get 100% swirl free results using only a rotary buffer but it's not always easy and sometimes it doesn't matter how great the products are, the pads or the person, sometimes it's about the paint. Some paints are not as easily polished as others and you never really know until you start doing some testing.

DA style polishers, after using a rotary buffer to do the majority of the work step, and here's the key word... insures a swirl free finish.

Nice work and thank you for the follow-up.

Yes you are exactly right. After you told me the DA is what insures holograms and swirl free finishes, I ordered the huge kit outlined from you Lexus detail thread.

I noticed very quickly the DA wouldn't correct as well as the Makitta so I used both

So far I am very happy with the results and love applying the Souveran with the black/blue finishing pads.

The only problem is the orange CCS pad. Maybe it's our climate up here being so dry, but I found that it dusted so terribly bad with both the SIP and Advanced Swirl Remover, that I switched to the white CCS and my results improved DRAMATICALLY. No dust, no haze, great correction... very happy.

[TheGLL]

I don't want to hijack the thread but I have a question.
I also bought Menzerna products with a PC7424XP and I would like to know if my "recipe" is good :

1- Menzerna PO91E with orange or white CCS 6.5" pads, speed 5-6.
2- Menzerna PO85U with grey CCS 6.5" pads, speed 4-5.
3- Meguiars Canurba wax applied by hand.

Eventually I want to buy smaller pad.
I also bought a Poorboys EX Sealant with Carnauba, but I didn't try it yet.

Remember that I'm doing that for fun and I'm still a newbie.
Feel free to give me tips or comments.
Thanks!

[Mike Phillips]

I don't want to hijack the thread but I have a question.
I also bought Menzerna products with a PC7424XP and I would like to know if my "recipe" is good :

1- Menzerna PO91E with orange or white CCS 6.5" pads, speed 5-6.
2- Menzerna PO85U with grey CCS 6.5" pads, speed 4-5.
3- Meguiars Canurba wax applied by hand.

It's actually best to start your own dedicated thread as it usually helps you get better answers and plus the thread is all about your project.

Here's the nutshell answer, the 91E is for removing shallow scratches and sanding marks, so you really won't know how well it will tackle your project till you do a test spot and then inspect the results.

DA style polishers are very technique sensitive, if you haven't read through this maybe give it a read through.


This is pretty in-depth, it covers just about every tip and technique I could think of, at least at the time I wrote it...

Tips and Techniques for using the PC 7424XP Dual Action Polisher to remove Below Surface Defects


Start off by doing a test spot like shown in this thread with the Flex 3401, there's two videos in that thread that show doing the test spot and then the results from the test spot.


1957 Chevrolet Belair Extreme Makeover - Flex 3401 & Wolfgang Smackdown!


Point is to make sure your products and technique can make one small area look GREAT before going over the entire car.

[TheGLL]

^^ Thanks for your reply, they're always interesting.

[Mike Phillips]

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Need this thread for this thread,


http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...ve-hazing.html

[Mike Phillips]

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Need a clean link...

[WRAPT C5Z06]

Yes I have one, this was taken only after the SIP treatment with the makitta. I didn't take a close up after the 106 and 85, but I guess I can as the car is here still

I didn't realize a rotary could leave behind this kind of marring!!!!

I know it's normal, but still shocks me!

[Mike Phillips]

I didn't realize a rotary could leave behind this kind of marring!!!!

I know it's normal, but still shocks me!

When I need a swirled out finish for demonstration purposes... I use a rotary buffer with a wool cutting compound and a very abrasive compound to instill swirls.