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There's no "best" approach or answer. It's all about your needs/wants. It sounds like you're interested in simplicity and saving time-- this would lead me to suggest an all-in-one type product.
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If I was going to go with hd speed, what would I use as a sealer? Does hd make one that last a long time?
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Originally Posted by mattmann
If I was going to go with hd speed, what would I use as a sealer? Does hd make one that last a long time?
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HD Speed is an "AIO" (all-in-one). It CLEANS, POLISHES, and PROTECTS (it contains a WAX/SEALER!). So, you can use the HD Speed and you're DONE
See these threads:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...x-sealant.html
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...ervations.html
HD Speed!!!
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Where's the "like" button?!?!
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Originally Posted by Eldorado2k
@mattmann. Hi, if it were me I would:
Wash
Dry with Cobra Guzzler [or similar quality waffle weave] Not a regular microfiber towel
Blow dry just the cracks & crevices after drying with the towel, and not the entire vehicle [because water spots can form in a short time, even on a new vehicle because it's not yet waxed/sealed, resulting in you chasing the spots around trying to remove them and basically unnecessarily rubbing on your paint]
Clay instead of nanoskin [IMO clay is alot more intricate than using a nanoskin, especially on a white car, because you can visually see all the little bits of contaminants you remove as you clay. Using the nanoskin you have to rub considerably harder on the paint in order to fully remove those little specs of contamination.
From my experience, the nanoskin is great at making the paint smooth quickly, but if you really want to get it perfect, the claybar still can't be beat at removing it all. Meguiars clay works great.
No need to wash and dry again. Especially if you're going to polish next.
Polish
Seal
And don't forget to seal/treat/dress/coat, or whatever your method for preserving all the plastic trim on your new truck. You'll thank yourself in the long run that you did it from day 1. Or you can remember I gave you good advice and thank me😃
>>>> And don't forget to seal/treat/dress/coat, or whatever your method for preserving all the plastic trim on your new truck.
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I think I understand seal. Can you fill out for me what is involved in treat/dress/coat?
In which category or "step" does Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating belong? Does this coating require extra "know-how"? If so, what do you recommend for acquiring this know-how? Can I study one of the autogeek DVDs? Would practicing on junkyard cars help? I don't want to waste nice products on junk cars, do I?
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Hello,mattmann
I just used Blackfire Total Polish and Seal, it's an all in one. Worked very well plus you get the benefit of Blackfire Polymers.
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Originally Posted by thebluepearl
>>>> And don't forget to seal/treat/dress/coat, or whatever your method for preserving all the plastic trim on your new truck.
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I think I understand seal. Can you fill out for me what is involved in treat/dress/coat?
In which category or "step" does Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating belong? Does this coating require extra "know-how"? If so, what do you recommend for acquiring this know-how? Can I study one of the autogeek DVDs? Would practicing on junkyard cars help? I don't want to waste nice products on junk cars, do I?
Treat/dress/coat exterior trim: means applying something like aerospace 303 (or others) on black/plastic trim pieces and rubber (doesn't work well on chrome FYI). Basically, applying trim/rubber-specific protectant/sealer/coatings to plastics and rubber.
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Originally Posted by Puckman
For what its worth to you I keep it even more simple if i am not going to Iron X before claying. I wash first and don't bother drying at all. I then soap up a section at a time with the same soap i used to wash it and then run my nano glove over every panel. Once done with that section i rinse and move on. After i have nanoskinned the entire vehicle it's thoroughly rinsed then dried. Then blow out all tight areas. Basically i only fully dry once.
THIS!!!
I was going to just go ahead and reply... then read down far enough to read this.
To the OP...
I'm willing to bet that there are far and away more swirls in that white paint that you realize, FAR MORE.
It's just hard to see them, but they've been there on every truck I've ever seen, especially if it's been washed by someone that isn't your typical OCD Autogeek type.
Several things come to mind.
1: That paint is HARD
2: You'll need a fairly aggressive pad and compound to fix it
3: You need to IRON-X it along with Nanoskin/claying it!!!
4: If you're compounding it, you might want to do a polish as well. (At least this first time.)
5: Applying a sealant is a fantastic idea!
As for your process...
I'd do the wheels, tires, wheel wells first, along with the bumpers.
Then wash it to remove the biggest dirt and rinse.
*you can blow it dry, but don't need to totally dry it at this point*
Then you should IRON-X it, rinse again, then wash while it's wet.
NOW you can Nanoskin/clay it with a splash of CLEAN soapy water on each panel as you go. No need to do it all without rinsing either. Just splash some soapy water on the roof, Nanoskin, then the glass, Nanoskin then rinse that area.
Next the hood, tops of the fenders, tops of the doors, with a splash and Nanoskin, then rinse.
Of course next would be the rest of the fenders, then rinse.
Doors, then rinse.
Bed, tailgate, (one side at a time) then rinse.... etc. etc. etc.
Once it is ALL Nanoskinned and rinsed you can re-wet it and go about blowing out the cracks and crevices. Without any sealant (or coating) on it you'll NEVER be able to blow the paint dry, but you can get over half the water off of it. This is why it was suggested that you get a good drying towel, the Cobra Guzzler is one of the (ONLY) Autogeek towels that I'd recommend, for drying, and they are really good! Don't EVER wipe your towels to dry the surface, because there isn't any lubricity in the water. Just place them flat on the surface, then pat, or rub, you open hand on the back of the towel to absorb the water on the surface. Of course a quality Korean Waffle Weave is also an option. I prefer the ones from Ian in San Diego. There is another one, from the guys up in Idaho, in white, have a normal sized one, and one that is HUGE... but I don't like using it, (don't terribly trust it).
As for a compound and pad combo that'll do that hard white Ford paint.
Meguiar's D300 with a orange Lake Country pad.
Meguiar's D300 with a Meguiar's Microfiber Cutting Disc
By and large... these last few years D300 is my most used product from Meguiar's.
Meguiar's Ultimate Compound, again, with either of the above pads. (also doesn't dust)
Meguiar's M101, GREAT compound, tons of cut, but may re
HD Cut, or possibly HD Adapt. I have the latter, and it DOES NOT dust, (neither do any HD products) but be warned that HD products have a VERY different learning curve.
Both of the HD products would be great with an orange LC pad, even moving to a white one with a heavier cut product to finish better.
Menzerna FG400 with an orange (or white) LC pad. It is one simply amazing product that'll cut AS WELL AS finish like crazy (on that hard paint).
Menzerna 1000 or 1500, also with an orange pad, or microfiber pad.... just that they don't cut as well, and for some amazing reason.... might not finish as well either.
And of course Rupes pads and compounds, blue, green, perhaps even yellow, along with the matching color pads from Rupes (both the blue foam and yellow foam as well as the blue and yellow microfiber pads are AWESOME). Those won't come into play here however... that is... unless you're planning on investing in a Rupes machine. SHOULD YOU DO THAT... I'd highly recommend the Rupes Duetto 'kit' along with a hand full of extra Rupes pads.
For a sealant... Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 is a seriously good sealant. Of course Menzerna PowerLock would be a close cousin. For a more affordable, (and available locally) solution... Meguiar's M21 2.0 is a GREAT sealant as well!
Then...... there are the choices of a true AIO.
Meguiar's D151 can, and WILL, do great correction on most paints, as well as leave a sealant after the fact. You can play around with a variety of pads with it to fine tune your level of cut. You can ALSO top the 'built-in' sealant with your choice of polymer sealants.
Menzerna One-Step 3-in-1 is another option.
Then of course 3D HD Speed is an AIO product with middle of the road cut like the other two above. I've not used it, (just have too many others here in the arsenal) but I know it'll react like the rest of the HD products and provide extended working times, with literally zero dusting.
THAT SAID... I've never used an AIO that dusted, and doesn't have extended working times!
There are plenty of others... PLENTY indeed. And I've used a bunch of them... but I prefer to compound and seal, just get MUCH better protection (and look) that way.
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Re: Newby question
Originally Posted by thebluepearl
>>>> And don't forget to seal/treat/dress/coat, or whatever your method for preserving all the plastic trim on your new truck.
>>>>
I think I understand seal. Can you fill out for me what is involved in treat/dress/coat?
In which category or "step" does Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating belong? Does this coating require extra "know-how"? If so, what do you recommend for acquiring this know-how? Can I study one of the autogeek DVDs? Would practicing on junkyard cars help? I don't want to waste nice products on junk cars, do I?
-Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating. Hmm... I've never tried that product and TBO I don't know anything about it, so I can't help you there..
-No you don't want to waste good product on "junk cars", because even if you did you'd have to thoroughly clean the trim prior to applying product onto it, and who's got time to go through all that on junk trim? But then again, it's not out of the realm of possibility.. Just keep in mind, not all plastic trim is created equal. What may work great on 1 vehicle may not work so great on another..
Originally Posted by Harpolith
Treat/dress/coat exterior trim: means applying something like aerospace 303 (or others) on black/plastic trim pieces and rubber (doesn't work well on chrome FYI). Basically, applying trim/rubber-specific protectant/sealer/coatings to plastics and rubber.
I agree^
Just to add to this reply:
Seal - Megs Ultimate Liquid Wax, Ultimate Quik Wax, or whatever your choice of sealant
Treat - Megs Ultimate Black, 303 Protectant, Mothers Back To Black Trim Restorer, etc.
Dress - Megs Hyper Dressing, Megs All Season Dressing, etc.
Coat - Turtle Wax Endura Trim Coat
... Whichever method you choose to go with, it's always a wise idea to start when the car is new so it never has a chance to deteriorate in the 1st place.😉
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