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    Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    Which of these 2 products is the better one to use? I should add that as soon as the weather eases up and allows me to, I will be using Mckee's 360 and top it with McKee's Hi Def Sealant, and then using either of these as part of my maintenance routine. The Optimum appealed to me based on a post done by Mike a while back about the Optimium having true UV protection in it, and also out of curiosity to try the Optimum product. Anyone with experience with these?

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    Re: Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    I have multiple gallons of both. I mix them 50:50. I use them as my drying agent and for wax renewal between paste wax applications. I "invented" or "concocted" this process myself.

    I became very impressed by OCW because of Mike's video and also after reading Dr. G's patent disclosure. His patent for what amounts to OCW is here: https://www.google.com/patents/US6685765

    It is the only real definitive documentation explaining the reasoning and theory behind the product.

    That said, I had almost a full gallon of Fast Wax sitting on the shelf and I was thinking about what a waste it was to not be using it.

    I went back and reread the description here: https://www.autogeek.net/xmt-360-spray-wax-128.html

    I'm thinking to myself that this sounds distinctly similar to OCW: https://www.autogeek.net/optimum-spray-wax.html

    At that point I said to myself, "F - it. these two product descriptions have so much in common that they are virtually interchangeable so I'm going to mix them and see what happens" and I've been mixing them ever since. There is no rhyme or reason to doing this. It is like mixing Coke and Pepsi. To each his own.

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    Re: Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    Optimum Spray Wax on top high def sealant? It'll really make things glow!

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    Re: Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    That's the plan!

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    Re: Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    Quote Originally Posted by TMQ View Post
    Optimum Spray Wax on top high def sealant? It'll really make things glow!

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    Overkill in your mind?

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    Re: Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    No...Actually makes it more glossy.

    Do this if you can. Leave high def on paint for 24 hours and remove. Do couple of washes---couple of times with in a month or two. See how high def holds up.

    Then do a wash and then add Optimum---You should see a marked increase in gloss.

    That will give you a true visual proof that Optimum is key to the gloss.

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    Re: Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    •Some people say that they will often
    layer a (“dedicated”) Sealant on top
    of an AIO-Sealant—(along with differing
    reasonings/abundance of assumptions
    of what this layering action actually does).

    Anyway...

    •You are going to be doing a similar action:
    -[You’ve stated you’re going to layer McKee’s
    37 Hi-Def Sealant (a “dedicated” Sealant)
    over McKee’s 37 360 (an AIO-Sealant)]

    •At this point—and not knowing what your
    maintenance plan entails—I personally
    would not want to effectuate any changes
    to the characteristics of the Sealant-combo
    that’s already been applied (360/Hi-Def)
    by applying one of the other two Sealants
    (listed in your thread-starter’s title) on top.


    •Just a suggestion:
    -Instead of using spray Sealants...interject
    McKee’s 37 N-914 into your maintenance plan:
    It won’t mess with 360’s/Hi-Def’s characteristics.


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    Re: Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    For once, I agree with Bob. Lol.

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    Re: Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    I would also suggest Optimum Spray Wax over Hi Def sealant. The reason is, Optimums Spray Wax has a unique feature in that it will reintroduce the UV absorbing particles of the clearcoat back into it bit by bit with consistent use. Now I know that Optimum Spray Wax over Optiseal, the UV protectants will go through the Optiseal back into the clearcoat. I have a feeling that it will do the same but not as effectively over Hi Def sealant.
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    Re: Optimum Spray Wax or McKee's Fast wax

    After all of this discussion, is there any sealant-wax/wax-sealant combinations that are detrimental? Seriously, sealants and waxes are all positive in effect but is there a case where negation might result in detriment because of a combination of some sealant and some wax? I believe they all co-exist with each other.

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