Sonax Perfect Finish 4/6 and EX 04/06 the same product ?

[DetailTrail]

They have the same cut/gloss rating. Is it non-diminishing abrasives in one, maybe a chemical polish in other ??

[Zubair]

Perfect Finish is designed for rotary use the other DA. In the real world me thinks both will work just fine on either machine.

[zmcgovern45]

The original Sonax PF (said to be made for rotary) was flamed for filling defects in some instances rather than actually removing them. IIRC the explanation was that certain components of the polish would not break down with the lower heat of the DA machine vs. Rotary. It was a loved polish for a while, until "Filler-gate" and then the professional world sort of fell out of love with it pretty quickly.

They later released EX 04/06 as an update for DA use with a new formula...
"This unique formula was created specifically for use with dual-action or random orbital polishers and the abrasives break down consistently to help you produce the high amounts of depth and gloss. EX 04-06 is water based and contains no solvents, silicones or petroleum."

[DetailTrail]

The original Sonax PF (said to be made for rotary) was flamed for filling defects in some instances rather than actually removing them. IIRC the explanation was that certain components of the polish would not break down with the lower heat of the DA machine vs. Rotary. It was a loved polish for a while, until "Filler-gate" and then the professional world sort of fell out of love with it pretty quickly.

They later released EX 04/06 as an update for DA use with a new formula...
"This unique formula was created specifically for use with dual-action or random orbital polishers and the abrasives break down consistently to help you produce the high amounts of depth and gloss. EX 04-06 is water based and contains no solvents, silicones or petroleum."

OK then, that really makes sense.
At times I use both a Rotary & DA, be nice to have something made for the extra heat generated from my Rotary,
then switch over to a DA, with a formula made to break down with less heat. Great.

[dschia]

Definitely not the same product. Perfect finish has a more 'dry' buffing cycle than ex 04/06. I always read about Perfect Finish being market for rotary and 04/06 for DA but I actually find perfect finish works much faster than 04/06. 04/06 has extremely long work time which imo may not be the most efficient way to use when buffing with DA. Having said that, the abrasive used for both is really top notch. Both are predictable and consistent performer from hard to the softest of paintwork.

[Desertnate]

To take this discussion a little further: What is the difference between EX 04/06 and the new Cut and Finish? Using Sonax's own 6-point scale, these two products appear to be very and may actually overlap.

[Nick McKees37]

The original Sonax PF (said to be made for rotary) was flamed for filling defects in some instances rather than actually removing them. IIRC the explanation was that certain components of the polish would not break down with the lower heat of the DA machine vs. Rotary. It was a loved polish for a while, until "Filler-gate" and then the professional world sort of fell out of love with it pretty quickly.

They later released EX 04/06 as an update for DA use with a new formula...
"This unique formula was created specifically for use with dual-action or random orbital polishers and the abrasives break down consistently to help you produce the high amounts of depth and gloss. EX 04-06 is water based and contains no solvents, silicones or petroleum."

Great explanation Zach.

To take this discussion a little further: What is the difference between EX 04/06 and the new Cut and Finish? Using Sonax's own 6-point scale, these two products appear to be very and may actually overlap.

EX 04/06 has a cut rating of 4 (out of 6) and a gloss rating of 6 (out of 6).

Cut & Finish, using the same scale, is rated at 5 for cut and 5 for gloss, respectively. If you need just a wee bit more cut and are willing to sacrifice a smidgen of gloss, then Cut & Finish is the better choice.

Cut & Finish is a truly top notch compound. Check out Mike's review: NEW SONAX Cut & Finish - Extreme Showcar Makeover - Removing Holograms using the FLEX 3401

[Desertnate]

Cut & Finish, using the same scale, is rated at 5 for cut and 5 for gloss, respectively. If you need just a wee bit more cut and are willing to sacrifice a smidgen of gloss, then Cut & Finish is the better choice.

Thanks, Nick! "Wee bit"..."smidgen"!? I know what you are getting at, and I appreciate it, but when products are that close in performance it really doesn't make the decision process easy.