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    Re: to use Meguiar's Wheel Brightener, or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    Btw, how "safe" is D143 Non Acid Wheel & Tire Cleaner in comparison? Because they Both register a "3" level health hazard on the label.. D143 also gets level 1 flammable whereas Wheel Brightener is not flammable level 0.
    HF and ABF carry specific hazards that are not comparable to other acidic or caustic wheel cleaners. Caveat emptor.

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    Re: to use Meguiar's Wheel Brightener, or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    Which 1 is that? Eagle 1 Spoke & Wire Cleaner?
    No.

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    I used to love that stuff way back when I bought my 1st car
    It wasn't available when I bought my 1st car.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    It's similar to Meguiars Hot Wheels Chrome & Wire Cleaner,
    which is in turn very similar to Wheel Brightener.
    I also do not use Eagle 1 Spoke & Wire Cleaner:
    it contains Hydrofouoric Acid; or, Meguiar's
    Hot Wheels C&W Cleaner: It, too, contains
    Ammonium Biflouride.



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    Re: to use Meguiar's Wheel Brightener, or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    No.


    It wasn't available when I bought my 1st car.


    I also do not use Eagle 1 Spoke & Wire Cleaner:
    it contains Hydrofouoric Acid; or, Meguiar's
    Hot Wheels C&W Cleaner: It, too, contains
    Ammonium Biflouride.



    Bob
    I knew it.😏 It works just like Wheel Brightener. They Both do.. Btw I never ruined any wheels in all my time during my younger years using that stuff.

    And as far as Wheel Brightener, along with the rest of Meguiars professional line products, it states on every label "for professional use only" Detailers who buy and those products grow familiar with how to use them with responsibility and care. Care with their surroundings, the vehicles they're using them on, and their own health. Meguiars wouldn't sell D140 Wheel Brightener if it was likely to kill you or even harm you, as long as you follow the directions and take normal safety precautions, it's a great product. Use as directed.

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    Re: to use Meguiar's Wheel Brightener, or not?

    When it comes to HF/ABF...
    It takes a lot more than the "normal" safety
    precautions in order to protect ones health!

    How many people actually know what
    that protocol is whenever they use
    HF/ABF at the job site?


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    to use Meguiar's Wheel Brightener, or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    When it comes to HF/ABF...
    It takes a lot more than the "normal" safety
    precautions in order to protect ones health!

    How many people actually know what
    that protocol is whenever they use
    HF/ABF at the job site?


    Bob
    The bottle of Wheel Brightener says [safety glasses, gloves, apron]

    How many average Joes get around to buying a gallon of Wheel Brightener? It's not exactly the type of stuff you just stumble upon and decide to bring home by accident.. You should have more than a clue about taking the proper precautions by that time.. It's a far leap between the consumer label stuff. But the fact that the consumer bottled stuff [Megs Hot Wheels Chrome Wheel Cleaner] is basically a mix of the same thing goes to show people use it everyday without a problem.

    It wouldn't be on the shelves if people were suffering health problems by using as directed.

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    Re: to use Meguiar's Wheel Brightener, or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    When it comes to HF/ABF...
    It takes a lot more than the "normal" safety
    precautions in order to protect ones health!

    How many people actually know what
    that protocol is whenever they use
    HF/ABF at the job site?
    And if people knew what the spill control procedure was, they also would feel pretty funny washing it down the driveway. It's really not something that should be used outside of a controlled environment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    How many average Joes get around to buying a gallon of Wheel Brightener?
    With the internet? A lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    But the fact that the consumer bottled stuff [Megs Hot Wheels Chrome Wheel Cleaner] is basically a mix of the same thing goes to show people use it everyday without a problem. It wouldn't be on the shelves if people were suffering health problems by using as directed.
    Your opinion. As Bob and I are trying to explain, HF/ABF carries specific hazards and requires specific spill control and neutralization procedures. It also has peculiar characteristics when it makes skin contact which are the opposite of what you might imagine. What if we told you that you might not feel an HF burn on your hand until the next day, and that even if you did, that running water over it for 15 minutes would do nothing to neutralize it? And sometimes exposure to chemicals, etc., doesn't produce "health problems" for many years after exposure.

    Sure, you can buy drain cleaner in the supermarket and it's dangerous stuff, but in the end you're washing that down the drain, not down the driveway onto the sidewalk where your kid is riding her tricycle.

    Anyway, at this point I feel like I'm beating a dead horse. There is nothing like an HF/ABF wheel cleaner for cleaning wheels, there's also nothing like it from a hazard standpoint.

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