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    Re: Phoenix EOD Hydra

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    You may not believe it but the only chemist is the one that designed the product. We all like to play chemist but we are only the end user. Trust the science just like you do with Frothe.
    I would if they gave me some science to trust. I only have what Ivan tell me. I like him as a spokesman but don’t consider his word proof

    As for Frothe I feel Larry has given a good amount of his science behind it but again his word not proof.

    I trust it because of my experience. Not what he or the internet told me.


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    Guys you are starting to sound like Fauci lol "I am science"

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    Re: Phoenix EOD Hydra

    Quote Originally Posted by Coatingsarecrack View Post
    I would if they gave me some science to trust. I only have what Ivan tell me. I like him as a spokesman but don’t consider his word proof

    As for Frothe I feel Larry has given a good amount of his science behind it but again his word not proof.

    I trust it because of my experience. Not what he or the internet told me.


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    Got it. Well you know what you have to do and that is try it out. You will be surprised how well it works and yes it also does foam. You missed the 30% off BF sales.

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    Got it. Well you know what you have to do and that is try it out. You will be surprised how well it works and yes it also does foam. You missed the 30% off BF sales.

    Yeah I’ll definitely give it a go. Nothing wrong withYvan but he seems to become a spokesperson for hire. Great job for him to have but now I take his reviews, recommendations with a grain of salt as he gets paid to do that.

    I’m sure 914,isn’t zwitterionic based on some test video’s I’ve seen and it works great. My favorite rinseless so far. I just didn’t like he felt the need to justify it.

    Only reason it made my list was YOUR review. If you put it in third place I trust your opinion is your own.

    Got absolute to play with and some ONR as I’ve never tried it. It will probably be my next one.


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    Re: Phoenix EOD Hydra

    Quote Originally Posted by Coatingsarecrack View Post
    Yeah I’ll definitely give it a go. Nothing wrong withYvan but he seems to become a spokesperson for hire. Great job for him to have but now I take his reviews, recommendations with a grain of salt as he gets paid to do that.

    I’m sure 914,isn’t zwitterionic based on some test video’s I’ve seen and it works great. My favorite rinseless so far. I just didn’t like he felt the need to justify it.

    Only reason it made my list was YOUR review. If you put it in third place I trust your opinion is your own.

    Got absolute to play with and some ONR as I’ve never tried it. It will probably be my next one.


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    Whenever you are ready to order then hit me up. You can use my 10% off discount code to order from their site.

    Absolute and ONR are both good.

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    Re: Phoenix EOD Hydra

    Anyone who is being paid by a manufacturer is to be taken with a bit of skepticism. At least we know that MP and Yvan are paid spokespeople. I've been around long enough to know that people who constantly hyped products on forums or youtube weren't always being completely honest. Some of those people are now nowhere to be found. They can't keep the act up forever.

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