Collinate 845..I had to do it

[MarkD51]

Which one of the Pinnacle Souverän Waxes
do you want to compare with Collinite #845?

Me?
•In the name of fairness, I would choose
Pinnacle Souverän Liquid Spray Wax as
the one to compare with Collinite #845;
-ie: Liquid form vs. Liquid form.

•Since I’ve used both of these products,
-I will give my first-hand viewpoints on
the above listed characteristics.

gloss...
•Gloss comes from having smooth surfaces;
polishing creates those smooth surfaces.
-It’s a toss-up between the two

the wet look appearance...
•Comes from “oils”
1.) Collinite #845’s are petroleum-based
2.) Souverän Liquid‘s are natural-based
-Nod goes to Souverän Liquid

durability...
•[For the long-run, it depends on how
LSPs are “touched” (MP)]
1.) Collinite #845...Tenacious!
2.) Souverän Liquid...Tentative {at best}
-This is definitely Collinite #845’s milieu!


Bob

Yeah and no. I might agree, and might disagree.

When you say Pinnacle Souveran Spray Wax is "Natural Based", well I might ask "like how"?

That how are you going to turn commercially bought raw Carnauba into an applicable liquid form? As I always have said for 30 years, 'cut the sh%t", it has to be cut with something. Do you know what? I'd say likely some form of solvent. Isn't oils. or petroleums "natural", they come from the earth.

As far as looks go, I could take Pinnacle Crystal Mist Detailer Spray, and it will probably stomp a mudhole in anything Collinite has ever made, but I sure wouldn't count on it for long lasting protection, especially winter-wise, it's just a topper product after a wash, or a nice hit it out of the park after WGDGPS 3.0 or a touch up on a show winning vehicle to get rid of fingerprints and minor dusts is all.

Hard to say at this point what the poster I/We responded to is actually looking to accomplish IMO?
I would think Souveran Paste as I've said should be as it's name implies, the "Pinnacle" of pastes that PBMG produces. Maybe WG Fuzion is an equal, excels over, comes close, and maybe it doesn't?

I think for a show car, like my buddy Butch's numerous best of show 1968 SS396 all black Chevelle, we'd could all live happily with any, that there's no duds mentioned in this thread.

Anyway, absolutely no disrespect intended towards you, I cannot, nor can anyone else take away what another person knows, and has experienced. Your experiences might differ slightly from mine.

As I close, and as the wonderful holidays are upon us, I wish you and all here a very safe and joyous holiday!

[PaulMys]

Yeah and no. I might agree, and might disagree.




Maybe WG Fuzion is an equal, excels over, comes close, and maybe it doesn't?

I for one will never know this. 200 bucks for a wax?


It might be the BEST wax ever, but just as a 250k Super-car is superior over my truck, some things are just impractical for regular people.

[FUNX650]

Yeah and no.
I might agree, and might disagree.

When you say Pinnacle Souveran Spray Wax
is "Natural Based", well I might ask "like how"?

{RE: “the wet look appearance...”}

I actually said that the “oils” in Pinnacle
Souveran Liquid Wax are natural-based.


Bob

[luvmyrv]

Sorry...I should have been more specific...when I was looking for a comparison between Collinite and Souveran and mentioned double the price I was referring to the Liquid Souveran and not the paste

[luvmyrv]

Also would it not be the Liquid Souveran wax that would be more like 845, and not the Spray Wax? I envisioned the Spray Wax as being a topper after a wash, a complement to the Liquid Souveran.

[acuRAS82]

Liquid Souveran would be the rival to 845, I agree. The paste and spray wax aren’t comparing apples to apples. I still give durability to 845, and looks would depend on color for me. They can both look really spectacular on certain paints.

Definitely two competitors nonetheless, both very nice, even legendary.

[CTS]

•$20.00...for a Car Wax?
-That’s not too cheap, IMO.

•In fact:
-$20.00 is fast approaching the maximum
amount I’m willing to pay for a Car Wax.

{Let’s see...Should I start soft-pedaling
my bragging about FK1000P? Nah.}



Bob

Okay, I'm interested. I'm a 476s fanboy. But the Evo has a big vent in the hood and heat ventilating from the engine bay causes wax/LSP on the hood to breakdown much quicker than the rest of the car. At least this is my guess...I waxed the car in the spring and the hood is the only panel on the car lacking any beading properties anymore (and it's really only in a small area behind the vent).

I typically just use a carnauba on the Evo since it is a garage queen, so I'm not surprised it has started breaking down at this point considering it was applied in May/June, but the hood being the only panel that seems to be lacking any protection leads me to believe it is from the heat. I was going to step it up to 476s in the spring, but maybe FK1000P is my answer...

Tell me more (PM me if needed).