HD Speed still a great product

[RZJZA80]

I will say that this is true for anyone relying on an AIO for stand alone protection.

However, most (if not all of us Geeks) will top any AIO. This is where I find the durability argument mute.

Speed is a little easier to wipe off, and a lot easier to clean out of your pads in my experience.

I'd argue, if you're going to top an AIO, then there's no point is using an AIO to begin with. Just use a polish and seal with whatever you like.

[WristyManchego]

I'd argue, if you're going to top an AIO, then there's no point is using an AIO to begin with. Just use a polish and seal with whatever you like.

XXX XXXX I love it when people talk sense.

EDITED to remove foul language. -Mike Phillips



Watch what you post WristyManchego


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And here's the rule you broke and multiple people REPORTED.


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[acuRAS82]

Some wise men pointed out to me once, the advantages of using a great AIO like Speed, even if you want durability and plan to top it. Something like Speed you can polish all the car and then do one wipe off at the end, rather than wiping each subsection at a time.

This alone makes me reach out for an AIO for convenience and speed purposes for some corrections, despite topping it afterwards.

[Belo]

Love this stuff, has anyone produced anything that come anywhere close to he speed for a comparable price?

mk360?

[Belo]

Some wise men pointed out to me once, the advantages of using a great AIO like Speed, even if you want durability and plan to top it. Something like Speed you can polish all the car and then do one wipe off at the end, rather than wiping each subsection at a time.

This alone makes me reach out for an AIO for convenience and speed purposes for some corrections, despite topping it afterwards.

My sisters sentra is an absolute wreck. I intend to do some correcting on it and then actually top it with speed. The thought being that the correction work would still need a polish and I'm just not sure I have the energy to do a 3 step. This way I get some correction, polish and protection.

Not sure if anyone ever does this or how it'll work out, but I'm going to try. I guess one alternative could be to do correction, polish and then a spray on sealant but idk...

[DMiglio]

mk360?

Agreed, 360 would be right up there with Speed. I think Speed may correct a bit better and leave a glossier finish, but 360 is no slouch and can give much better durability as it leaves a sealant behind. I wouldn’t mind reaching for either one of these and think they may be the best I’ve tried. Might want to have a look at Blackfire One Step as well..

[Mike Phillips]

I'd argue, if you're going to top an AIO, then there's no point is using an AIO to begin with.

Just use a polish and seal with whatever you like.

I used to think like this and buff out cars like this, but if I'm not going to use a ceramic coating, (thus I don't have to chemically strip the paint), If BLACKFIRE One Step will clean up the paint to my satisfaction, even if using it with a foam cutting pad, I'll use it like a compound for three reasons.


1: It wipes off easier than any compound I've used. Also - it wipes off best when fully dried, unlike a compound. So with a compound I wipe off immediately after buffing. With the BOS I can buff out an entire car and leave the product on and don't remove until I'm completely done with the car. Also by leaving the BOS on I can quickly and easily see where I've buffed and where I still need to buff.

2: I can top it wit something that will provide longer durability or not.

3: If I run out of time - no problem - the paint is sealed.


I'd call it the lazy man's style. Not for everyone but an option for some.

[briarpatch]

mk360?

360 will give you much better durability than Speed, but not the same gloss or slickness

[Belo]

but 360 is no slouch and can give much better durability as it leaves a sealant behind. I

i've done 2 rides and was impressed with the ease of 360 and how long the protection has lasted. I got some hd free with my bottle of One last fall and am interested to see how it compares, but your post confuses me. Doesn't speed have a sealant too?

[RZJZA80]

I used to think like this and buff out cars like this, but if I'm not going to use a ceramic coating, (thus I don't have to chemically strip the paint), If BLACKFIRE One Step will clean up the paint to my satisfaction, even if using it with a foam cutting pad, I'll use it like a compound for three reasons.


1: It wipes off easier than any compound I've used. Also - it wipes off best when fully dried, unlike a compound. So with a compound I wipe off immediately after buffing. With the BOS I can buff out an entire car and leave the product on and don't remove until I'm completely done with the car. Also by leaving the BOS on I can quickly and easily see where I've buffed and where I still need to buff.

2: I can top it wit something that will provide longer durability or not.

3: If I run out of time - no problem - the paint is sealed.


I'd call it the lazy man's style. Not for everyone but an option for some.

My point was that when using an AIO, and then topping it, you're better off using a dedicated polish and a dedicated sealant, both of which are better than any AIO I know of.