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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

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    And this is why I don't like all the plastic used on modern Bic cars. This type of plastic scratches very easy. It buffs out easy, but it's thin so you cannot buff on it too many times or you'll buff off the black outer shell and expose the underlying white colored plastic.

    I'd contact customer care and cite this thread and I'm sure they'll take care of you.


    Just a personal not of my experience with brushes. The key factor is the hardness or softness of the surface being washed. My wife's Mercedes-Benz has the Ceramiclear finish and I have used car wash brushes on it with no scratching. The old 1987 Chevy Silverado I use to own, (sold it a few months ago), it of course had a custom paint job and the paint on it was very soft. Washing it with a Boars Hair Brush easily scratched it up.

    So surface hardness is as key factor.


    So is this surface not a standard clear clear coat paint layering? I have similar plastic on my Focus RS and it behaves like clear coat (i.e. no swirls to speak of).

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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    It may vary between manufacturers, but on my VW, and several other cars I've seen, it's a thin piece of plastic which is snaped on to the b-pillar or the door facings with cover the b-pillar.
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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

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    I wonder if a ceramic coating would have stopped the scratching? I've always wanted to try a brush on the cars to get around bending over but have been afraid of possible scratches.
    I just coated with CSL & EXO 5/12/18 including Bpillars. I did polish them out and coat with Mckees's 37 Paint coating
    2012 Dodge Challenger RT Classic

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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Phillips View Post
    And this is why I don't like all the plastic used on modern Bic cars. This type of plastic scratches very easy. It buffs out easy, but it's thin so you cannot buff on it too many times or you'll buff off the black outer shell and expose the underlying white colored plastic.

    I'd contact customer care and cite this thread and I'm sure they'll take care of you.


    Just a personal not of my experience with brushes. The key factor is the hardness or softness of the surface being washed. My wife's Mercedes-Benz has the Ceramiclear finish and I have used car wash brushes on it with no scratching. The old 1987 Chevy Silverado I use to own, (sold it a few months ago), it of course had a custom paint job and the paint on it was very soft. Washing it with a Boars Hair Brush easily scratched it up.

    So surface hardness is as key factor.


    Mike,

    Thank you for the reply and for rotating my pics. However, they are switched now and the verbage does not match up. ;-)

    Also customer service reached out to me and made this situation right. Talk about great customer service. They reach out to you! If I've said it once I've said it a hundred times! AutoGeek has the BEST customer service!!
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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    Quote Originally Posted by DanHen View Post
    I wonder if a ceramic coating would have stopped the scratching? I've always wanted to try a brush on the cars to get around bending over but have been afraid of possible scratches.
    Wouldn't have helped that much. Coatings are not scratch proof.

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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    Quote Originally Posted by hoyt66 View Post
    I just coated with CSL & EXO 5/12/18 including Bpillars. I did polish them out and coat with Mckees's 37 Paint coating
    Have you consider to apply a ppf on the b-pillars? That I think would save them in the longrun. And if those is plastic a trim coating like carpro dlux could be an option too. The trim and rim coatings I think is a little more scratch resistant than the ordinary coatings. Just thinking out loud here. The ppf film which installers have been very good at to apply. And the quality of them has been better and better and the looks of them is great too. Those I would look into to apply on sensitive surfaces that you touch once and a while.

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