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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    Quote Originally Posted by Route246 View Post
    This doesn't look right. The long lines don't look like swirls caused by scratching. That looks like staining more than swirls caused by the "cobweb effect" as documented here many times. Not doubting OP but the light source for these photos is not depicting something that looks like damage from the brush.

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    Its just a quick iphone pic but the pic shows straight vertical scratches form the direction of the brush. lol well horizontal because I forgot to hold the phone sideways
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoyt66 View Post
    Its just a quick iphone pic but the pic shows straight vertical scratches form the direction of the brush. lol well horizontal because I forgot to hold the phone sideways
    The orientation doesn't really matter. The fact that they are parallel straight lines does. This looks much more like streaks or strains rather than scratches. The lines appear too wide. Scratches from a brush are going to result in circular, concentric patterns emanating from the primary light source. Was this wiped down with QD or any other drying agent type of product?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Route246 View Post
    The orientation doesn't really matter. The fact that they are parallel straight lines does. This looks much more like streaks or strains rather than scratches. The lines appear too wide. Scratches from a brush are going to result in circular, concentric patterns emanating from the primary light source. Was this wiped down with QD or any other drying agent type of product?
    I literally went from top to bottom and watched it leave a trail of scratches. I can tell you they polished out relatively easy
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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    Quote Originally Posted by Route246 View Post
    Not doubting OP...
    Sure you are, and that's O.K.

    If you have a different opinion (and obviously you do because of your alternate explanation), then there's no need to say you don't doubt the OP. If you didn't doubt the OP, you wouldn't have responded. If you're right, something tells me hoyt66 would be happy to be wrong about this and keep his purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevincwelch View Post
    Sure you are, and that's O.K.

    If you have a different opinion (and obviously you do because of your alternate explanation), then there's no need to say you don't doubt the OP. If you didn't doubt the OP, you wouldn't have responded. If you're right, something tells me hoyt66 would be happy to be wrong about this and keep his purchase.
    This is true. I would be happy if I was wrong. And I certainly have no problem with ppl doubting or questioning me. This all part of forum participation.
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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    Sorry to see it didn't work out, but I never use a brush for anything other than wheels and tires. I've tried some brushes on long extension poles for the roof of our SUV and despite the brush being really soft, I've quit using it because of the swirls it induced to the paint.

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    Nice idea about testing on a CD. Those piano black pillars scratch with anything so I wouldn’t be surprised if even a CD was harder than them.
    Agree. The B pillars on my VW are insanely soft. I have to be very careful around them even when drying and doing a wipe down with very soft, clean, MF towels.
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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveT435 View Post
    I used the Megs synthetic bristled, flag tipped brush on the face of my wheels and it scratched them. Nothing but boars hair from then on.
    Where they a shiny black surface? I've seen glossy black painted accents on wheels from many different OEM and aftermarket vendors these days and I can't imagine how hard it will be to keep those wheels looking nice. At least a gray/silver wheel will hide the scratches and swirls for a while, but there is no hiding damage on those gloss black accents.
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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    Quote Originally Posted by kevincwelch View Post
    Sure you are, and that's O.K.

    If you have a different opinion (and obviously you do because of your alternate explanation), then there's no need to say you don't doubt the OP. If you didn't doubt the OP, you wouldn't have responded. If you're right, something tells me hoyt66 would be happy to be wrong about this and keep his purchase.
    I'm not doubting the brush may have damaged or created an undesirable result. I am doubting that those are typical swirls that a brush would induce because of the width of the lines and the fact that they are parallel straight lines and not circular in nature.

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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    Quote Originally Posted by hoyt66 View Post

    A few weeks I bought the VIP special that contained this brush with telescoping handle, Blackfire car wash and car drying towel. I really wanted to do away with any raised platform when washing my truck. One swipe down my Bpillar looked like I ran sandpaper over it.

    Now I know they're delicate at best but WOW I did not expect this! This thing is going back to AG first thing Monday.

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    Kind of bummed about my shiny dash scratched up Bpillar 2018 F150 today :-(


    And this is why I don't like all the plastic used on modern Bic cars. This type of plastic scratches very easy. It buffs out easy, but it's thin so you cannot buff on it too many times or you'll buff off the black outer shell and expose the underlying white colored plastic.

    I'd contact customer care and cite this thread and I'm sure they'll take care of you.


    Just a personal not of my experience with brushes. The key factor is the hardness or softness of the surface being washed. My wife's Mercedes-Benz has the Ceramiclear finish and I have used car wash brushes on it with no scratching. The old 1987 Chevy Silverado I use to own, (sold it a few months ago), it of course had a custom paint job and the paint on it was very soft. Washing it with a Boars Hair Brush easily scratched it up.

    So surface hardness is as key factor.



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    Re: Speed Master Car Wash Brush (bad experience)

    I wonder if a ceramic coating would have stopped the scratching? I've always wanted to try a brush on the cars to get around bending over but have been afraid of possible scratches.

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