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    Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

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    Maybe - depends on if the paint is hard or soft.
    Fibers are abrasives and on soft and medium paint the fibers themselves, regardless of the product will lead to micro-marring of the paint.
    You rarely see me use micro-fiber pads. One reason is due to the micro-marring problem.
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    Thanks. I did some research and found that specifically, the URO Fiber 50/50
    pad(s) can work well with primer polishes on harder finishes. In the future, I will look for micromarring after finishing.

    Iíve used LC microfiber finishing pads in the past and havenít noticed any marring. But I did see self-installed scratches from improper buff-off technique. Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

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    Re: Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

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    And yes, on the proper paint hardness.

    And this is why we all do a Test Spot or two...


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    Re: Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Harrod AUTOCLEAN View Post
    So I could use this product and then top with the Pinnacle Black Label Diamond Ceramic Coating Pro?

    How long do you think the coating would last?

    The description of the Z1 says a year or more with the proper care. Perhaps topping with an accommodating 1 year coating would be best?
    Just to add my 2 cents, any coating that would normally last over a year for you on bare paint, should in theory last the same or more on Z1. In other words, Z1 isn’t going to dissolve underneath in a year or less, taking your coating with it and wasting time of your multi-year coating.

    I’m not sure if my point above was any concern of yours, but it shouldn’t be. Coatings on Essence can last a very long time and Essence doesn’t seem anywhere near as robust as what we’re reading about Z1.

    Note: I have not used Z1 yet and I don’t think anyone will have tested it for a year, but I’m more just stating that primers are meant to help the product going on top, not hinder it.

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    Re: Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

    What is the most extreme surface any readers have used this on without using any other polish prior?

    Any experiences on a totally neglected surface to bring it back to decent life with only one step? There are, I’ve read some. So my real question is:

    Any experiences using it to remove a strong LSP (a coating, CanCoat, newly applied polymer sealant)?


    These questions may seem set up to identify AIO functionality versus primer functionality, and I guess that is why I’m asking.

    For example, Essence generally shouldn’t be used to be the only polish/prime to remove a new, durable LSP, but I bet people have used it like that anyways. CarPro suggests compounding to remove a previous LSP if you are trying to start over with a new coating. To be safe, I’ve always compounded/polished before applying Essence unless the surface was already in really good shape and free of fresh LSPs.

    I’m thinking AIOs should be expected to handle a one step even on paint that has a healthy LSP already. Just checking in real-life experiences of such a case.

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    Re: Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

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    The above is going deep. But it's only deep for people that can and will READ. And of course, after reading, thinking about these deep things.


    You know I can and will read it brother! Thank you so much for curating this info for me, and for the absolutely amazing and DETAILED response! I'm thinking after reading that I'll purchase the Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer and accommodating Dr. Beasley's one year coating.

    This will be for a special little project. A burgundy Ford F150 with a step side bed.


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    Re: Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

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    Any experiences on a totally neglected surface to bring it back to decent life with only one step? There are, I’ve read some.
    Did you find these reviews on YouTube or elsewhere?

    I too am curious about the level of cut Z1 offers. The last AIO I used, Griots One Step Sealant, offered a surprising amount of correction on softer paint, but durability is lacking. I really liked it but knew it wouldn't do much on hard German paint. We've had a couple reviews here, but without an idea of the hardness of the paint or rough idea of the level of cut the product offers, I'm not sure how well it would work for me in some circumstances.
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    Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

    I am working on a horse trailer this week. Itís 17 years old and has never been detailed (polished or waxed), and has rarely been washed.

    Being that itís white, my before and after photos wonít translate that well. There is plenty of oxidation and some swirling on it. I have a fresh tube of Z1 that I can will try out.

    But my fair warning, as stated above...
    Itís white! Iím having a hard time seeing whatís happening, but it certainly passes the feel test. Iíve been using P&S Playmaker AIO and a 15mm DA.

    Also, this is a courtesy detail and practice for myself. So no fancy lighting or extra measures. But Iím happy give the Z1 some work.


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    Ripping through your mind like a hurricane full of novocaine

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    Re: Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig Encinitas View Post

    I am working on a horse trailer this week. It’s 17 years old and has never been detailed (polished or waxed), and has rarely been washed.
    17 years of neglect will test any AIO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Craig Encinitas View Post

    Being that it’s white, my before and after photos won’t translate that well. There is plenty of oxidation and some swirling on it. I have a fresh tube of Z1 that I can will try out.

    But my fair warning, as stated above... It’s white!
    I completely understand what you're saying and for this same exact reason and even MORE reasons - this is why I will not use white boats in my boat detailing classes.

    The students cannot EASILY see the before and after difference so there is NO IMPACT on them. At least not enough to go,

    Wow!


    Also - it's really hard to easily capture dramatic before and after differences via pictures and video when working on white and light colors. This is why I do my best to only bring in DARK colored gel-coat boats that have turned white from oxidation and neglect.


    Looking forward to your results. Also - I recently used the P&S Playmaker, I have a review for it here on the forum and found it to be a capable product.



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    Re: Now available - Dr. Beasley's Z1 Ceramic AIO Primer

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    Great results. Thanks! How hard was the paint? Body shop paint jobs I've encountered seem to be pretty soft.
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