RE: Mike Phillips style Restoring Single Stage Paints on my Black Ranchero.

I'm doing this:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...tml#post313790

To my 79 Ranchero with black single stage paint and I have some questions and I'll have more as I continue to move forward.

I'm only doing the hood at this time.

Question one: I've done the initial wet and vigorous application of #7 and left overnight, then did a second application. On the second application, I removed the 7 just after I put it on the hood. Is this the correct procedure for applications after the first?

Question two: After the second application I have a deep glossy black, but it is looking like I will have to go at it with abrasives. Should I continue to put more applications of the 7, or go to an abrasive at this stage?

I just got done doing this old ford. I polished then threw on the #7 came out really well. I will post a picture up for you tomorrow. I am on the internet at a hotel and my photobucket will not load.

How many coats of #7 depends upon the condition of the paint. I put 12 coats on my 57, all allowed to sit overnight. With a 79. I would consider 3 or 4 coats, but I haven't seen the car. I apply until the paint stops absorbing the oils.

And how do I know when the paint has stopped absorbing the oils?

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Originally Posted by TwoFoolsAMinute

And how do I know when the paint has stopped absorbing the oils?

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I know when it starts feeling slippery when I apply. When it is still absorbing, the paint feels a bit dry when you apply, and you have to rub hard. When the paint becomes saturated with oils, it feels oily and starts to stop absorbing them.

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Originally Posted by TwoFoolsAMinute

I'm doing this:
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...tml#post313790

To my 79 Ranchero with black single stage paint and I have some questions and I'll have more as I continue to move forward.

I'm only doing the hood at this time.

Question one: I've done the initial wet and vigorous application of #7 and left overnight, then did a second application. On the second application, I removed the 7 just after I put it on the hood. Is this the correct procedure for applications after the first?

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How long you leave the second coat depends upon how bad or how dried out the paint is. In my article I'm applying multiple coats for two reasons...

1. Gorge the paint with oils, pushing them into the paint with each rubdown

2. Abrading the dead paint off, remember the article is also about "removing" oxidation without using abrasives and it's the "rubbing" of the nap of your cloth PLUS the oils as both a lubricant and a revitalizer that's doing the correction work, that plus elbow grease. :D

If the paint is not too bad on your Elky then 2-3 applications should be more than enough to do the job.

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Originally Posted by TwoFoolsAMinute

Question two: After the second application I have a deep glossy black, but it is looking like I will have to go at it with abrasives. Should I continue to put more applications of the 7, or go to an abrasive at this stage?

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By your description, time to go ahead and start abrading the paint, start with a medium cut polish, something safe like Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover.


Looking forward to your after pictures...


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After the initial application to half of the roof of the car.


http://www.autogeekonline.net/galler...nt_Restore.jpg



:)

I used Mike's method on a 2002 Toyota with single stage white chalk.

I gave it five treatments with the Meguiars #7 before I felt that it was "full" and wouldn't eat any more.

Then polished as I normally would. Turned out better than I hoped it would.

If my towel is still coming up black with the M07, does that mean I should keep going?

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Originally Posted by TwoFoolsAMinute

If my towel is still coming up black with the M07, does that mean I should keep going?

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No. That is not an indicator of being done. It will always come up black. However, as you get done, it will become black more slowly. You are still removing some paint thickness while doing this, so it cannot be done forever. You need to look at the paint and decide when done. #7 will make the paint look deep and rich, and will even remove some scratches, but the final shine will come from the finessing polish.