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Griot's Garage G15/G21 Long-Throw Orbital Polisher *Ground-Up Redesign*
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This ground-up redesign takes the best of THE BOSS™ long-throw orbitals and incorporates many of the technical innovations of the G9. The project continues the collaboration with our new manufacturing partner with all components being exclusively designed to our specifications.
For G21, we've taken the shape of the G9 and extended the body housing by 20% to accommodate a 'big block' 1,100-watt motor. This represents a 22% increase in power versus the previous tool. In the G21, the motor delivers a speed range of 3,000 to 4,500 orbits per minute.
Among the more innovative features of this tool is its cooling strategy. Due to its long-throw articulation, the G21 could not integrate fan cooling in its counterbalance like the G9. So we engineered the G21 with its cooling fan integrated into the backing plate. This new backing plate technology was developed exclusively for these machines and is undeniably best in class.
Balancing the combined weight of a backing plate, buffing pad, and the liquid on the pad translates into less vibration and a smoother running machine. For instance, microfiber pads generally weigh nearly twice as much as a foam pad so fine tuning is beneficial. Our innovative Weight Optimization System consists of three uniquely engineered fasteners, each weight-matched to a Griot's Garage pad type to ensure you'll enjoy best in class performance from these machines.
It should be noted that long-throw polishers are not ideally suited for application of waxes and sealants. Their large throw tends to cure the wax unevenly with the exception of our BOSS™ Finishing Sealant whose formula is designed to comply with the heat cycling of long-throw orbits. The G8 or G9 are our most suitable tools for wax application. Also, the G21, when converted to a 5" backing plate and fitted with a BOSS Microfiber Fast Cutting Pad is our most aggressive paint correcting combination.
*Powerful 1100-watt, 10-amp motor
*21mm orbit throw
*Precision CNC-machined steel counter-balance
*Premium bearing construction
*Fitted with BOSS 6" Fanned Orbital Backing Plate
*3000 - 4500 orbits per minute
*10-foot quick-connect 16 AWG SJO rubber power cord
*6 speed settings
*Speed dial accessible for right- and left-hand users
*Constant speed control
*Fully variable speed trigger throttle with trigger lock
*Double-shot rubber platypus head-grip, and strategically placed all over tool
*Shroud grip contoured to accommodate four fingers
*Rest pads for tool to lay stable on its back
*Quick access brush side ports
*Includes 5mm hex key wrench, and replacement high-carbon brushes
*Convertible to a 5" pad system with optional BOSS 5" Fanned Orbital Backing Plate
PRICE: $249.99 - AVAILABLE 5/20/20
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This ground-up redesign takes the best of THE BOSS™ long-throw orbitals and incorporates many of the technical innovations of the G9. The project continues the collaboration with our new manufacturing partner with all components being exclusively designed to our specifications.
For the G15, we've taken the shape of the G9 and extended the body housing by 20% to accommodate a 'big block' 1,100-watt motor. This represents a 22% increase in power versus the previous tool. In the G15, the motor delivers a speed range of 3,000 to 5,300 orbits per minute.
Among the more innovative features of this tool is its cooling strategy. Due to its long-throw articulation, the G15 could not integrate fan cooling in its counterbalance like the G9. So we engineered the G15 with its cooling fan integrated into the backing plate. This new backing plate technology was developed exclusively for these machines and is undeniably best in class.
Balancing the combined weight of a backing plate, buffing pad, and the liquid on the pad translates into less vibration and a smoother running machine. For instance, microfiber pads generally weigh nearly twice as much as a foam pad so fine tuning is beneficial. Our innovative Weight Optimization System consists of three uniquely engineered fasteners, each weight-matched to a Griot's Garage pad type to ensure you'll enjoy best in class performance from these machines.
It should be noted that long-throw polishers are not ideally suited for application of waxes and sealants. Their large throw tends to cure the wax unevenly with the exception of our BOSS™ Finishing Sealant whose formula is designed to comply with the heat cycling of long-throw orbits. The G8 or G9 are our most suitable tools for wax application.
*Powerful 1100-watt, 10-amp motor
*15mm orbit throw
*Premium bearing construction
*Fitted with BOSS 5" Fanned Orbital Backing Plate
*3000 - 5300 orbits per minute
*10-foot quick-connect 16 AWG SJO rubber power cord
*6 speed settings
*Speed dial accessible for right- and left-hand users
*Constant speed control
*Fully variable speed trigger throttle with trigger lock
*Double-shot rubber platypus head-grip, and strategically placed all over tool
*Shroud grip contoured to accommodate four fingers
*Rest pads for tool to lay stable on its back
*Quick access brush side ports
*Includes 5mm hex key wrench, and replacement high-carbon brushes
*Convertible to a 6" pad system with optional BOSS 6" Fanned Orbital Backing Plate
PRICE: $239.99 - AVAILABLE 5/20/20
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Great news!
Richard and his Team are KILLING it this year!
You could even say they're killing it like a BOSS!
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Hello,
What is the advantage of getting the g15 over the g9? Does the longer stroke make that much of a difference? I’m thinking of getting a new polisher am looking at the g9 and g15.
Thanks
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$250 for these is crazy good price. For those that make money detailing cars, a single correction job is going to pay for each of these so no problem upgrading. For us home users, not sure it's worth it, unless they have the trade in program too and the difference is not huge. My G15 is still in fantastic shape.
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waterman
What is the advantage of getting the g15 over the g9? Does the longer stroke make that much of a difference? I知 thinking of getting a new polisher am looking at the g9 and g15.
Might just be preference. One member put aside his BOSS G15 and is now using his G9 almost exclusively.
I have a G15, but prefer the 8mm throw Flex 3401, but in that case, it's because of the forced rotation. I'd likely choose the BOSS G15 over the Griot's 6" with 8mm throw.
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BSoares
$250 for these is crazy good price. ..My G15 is still in fantastic shape.
Agree and same here. My G15 doesn't get much use so it's still in like-new condition.
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waterman
Hello,
What is the advantage of getting the g15 over the g9? Does the longer stroke make that much of a difference? I知 thinking of getting a new polisher am looking at the g9 and g15.
Thanks
Polishes quicker and more efficiently. Cover more ground faster. G9 more dummy proof and can apply waxes or sealants. Most pros will have combo of both. You値l definitely need a mini of some sort if you go with a long throw
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I like the adjustable weight with different pads but had no big issues going from MF to foam and having their be a huge difference. Would like to feel the smoothness overall difference
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I WANT the new G15, just not sure I really NEED the new G15. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ac00b043fa.jpg
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I’m with you. I have a 15 and 21.... Hell, if my wife has $1200 shoes I’m getting a new Boss!!!!!
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How did the price of the 15mm go from $ 365 (BOSS G15) to $ 240 (new G15) for a machine that is advertised as better/improved? Sorry if I sound skeptical, but "better" and "much less expensive" are rarely used in the same sentence. P.S. Is Griot's still building their polishers in China?
ScottH
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ScottH
How did the price of the 15mm go from $ 365 (BOSS G15) to $ 240 (new G15) for a machine that is advertised as better/improved? Sorry if I sound skeptical, but "better" and "much less expensive" are rarely used in the same sentence. P.S. Is Griot's still building their polishers in China?
ScottH
Yes, still made in China but a different supplier that is potentially cheaper than the previous one and they were able to lower the cost? Or maybe they found a cheaper way to make the motor? Only Griot's would be able to say how they lowered the price that much but it still has lifetime warranty so I'd not be wary of buying it.
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i don't think GG would sacrifice quality, lower the price, and bring a new product out to the market that is inferior compared to the previous model, that would be a step backwards. especially, given how hard they've been working on this from scratch for quite some time (years) now. they have a lot of talented/skilled employees that work very hard everyday to bring detailers/enthusiasts the best they possibly can. they just keep pushing the envelope and never stop...
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ScottH
How did the price of the 15mm go from $ 365 (BOSS G15) to $ 240 (new G15) for a machine that is advertised as better/improved? Sorry if I sound skeptical, but "better" and "much less expensive" are rarely used in the same sentence. P.S. Is Griot's still building their polishers in China?
ScottH
Hmm..... Maybe in the same way that a 4K Ultra HDTV was around $4,000 dollars when they came out in 2010, and now you can buy one for 300 bucks on Amazon?
And yes, the Griot's machines are ASSEMBLED in China. And so are iPhones.
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I would think that savings could have been made in revamping their whole polisher line at the same time/such a short timeframe (considering their bread and butter 6" machine, 3" machine, and long strokes are all refreshed within a year). Efficiencies and savings you make with one model can help save on the next machine down the line.
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PaulMys
Hmm..... Maybe in the same way that a 4K Ultra HDTV was around $4,000 dollars when they came out in 2010, and now you can buy one for 300 bucks on Amazon?
And yes, the Griot's machines are ASSEMBLED in China. And so are iPhones.
Paul - yes, could be as you described with the lower prices on TV's.
All - My question really wasn't aimed at the notion of product quality, although some replies seem to have assumed that. More specifically, I have made a personal decision I will no longer purchase anything made in China where other options exist. No one has to agree with me, and no one has to do as "I do".
It is my belief that we can/should make things here in America (including the downstream supply chain) and employ our own people; especially when the company is American-owned. Again no one has to agree; I speak for myself. Change takes time, and starts with one person and one action.
P.S. I am also in the pro audio industry and the sentiment there is even stronger. Pro audio engineers have put manufacturers on-notice, sending a loud and clear message to manufacturers. It is being referred to as the "Quit China" movement.
Be well,
ScottH
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I’m in the same camp now Scott. I have the original Boss machines and really like them. I was eyeballing the new ones, but will end up in the Rupes camp. I am in the process of going full time mobile and will carry both Boss tools on the trailer. They are reliable, do a good job, easy to replace brushes, and the lifetime warranty means I will never have to buy a new one. The reliance on Chinese manufacturing needs to end. But right now it is hard to recommend a good entry level polisher that rivals the G9. Maybe Rupes can fill that gap in the near future. I do feel bad for Griot’s, the new long throws are priced very well, but I think the Chinese made sentiment might kill them out of gate.
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I think the machine looks too “tall” if you will. Not sure how that will feel once you use the machine tho.
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Would I prefer if the machine was made in the US? Sure!
Would I pay double the price if it was made here instead of China? Not so sure.
Would I pay double for the Rupes which is assembled in the US? I would not unless they had the same warranty as Griot's.
The warranty is Griot's biggest difference. For the pro that gets hundreds of jobs in a year, if the Rupes fails year 2, who cares? They made enough money from that one machine they can pay for repair or a replacement. For the hobbyist that is not making any money and only polishing a couple of times per year, if that, how would that person feel if the machine died year 2 and he/she only got a couple of uses out of it? For that person to pay for a repair is not nice. Replace the polisher? No way. That's where Griot's shines, if their polisher fails year 2, year 5, year 10, doesn't matter, they got your back.
I value warranty more than I value made in the US. When a company believes their product is the best out there, they stand behind it.
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ScottH
Paul - yes, could be as you described with the lower prices on TV's.
All - My question really wasn't aimed at the notion of product quality, although some replies seem to have assumed that. More specifically, I have made a personal decision I will no longer purchase anything made in China where other options exist. No one has to agree with me, and no one has to do as "I do".
It is my belief that we can/should make things here in America (including the downstream supply chain) and employ our own people; especially when the company is American-owned. Again no one has to agree; I speak for myself. Change takes time, and starts with one person and one action.
P.S. I am also in the pro audio industry and the sentiment there is even stronger. Pro audio engineers have put manufacturers on-notice, sending a loud and clear message to manufacturers. It is being referred to as the "Quit China" movement.
Be well,
ScottH
I apologize if my post seemed aggressive in any way, Scott. And I really wish more (most) things were manufactured & assembled here in America just like you do, don't get me wrong.
However, as long as these Muti-Billion dollar companies have relocated all of the manufacturing overseas to maximize profits, a company like Griot's has no choice but to follow suit unless they were to build their own plants similar to a car manufacturer circa the 1950's. That is not a workable model in today's world for a company such as Griot's.
As far as "Made in America" units..... I challenge anyone to prove that these units contain ZERO foreign-made parts.
That being said, I have to agree with Bruno's post about the warranty. Buying an "American made" Rupes for twice the price with the knowledge that if on day 366 it would cost me $100 bucks to fix if it craps out (which they are known to do) is a HUGE no for me.
JMO.
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Made in America does not automatically mean it's better quality.
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RZJZA80
Made in America does not automatically mean it's better quality.
...as I mentioned in my post, I was not addressing the issue of quality. We ALL saw what China did to the world in these last 2-3 months didn't we? Again I want to refrain from this being a political post, but rather one about the reality we ALL face. My point here is that we can and should end reliance on this communist nation now, and employ our own people - and this goes beyond car detailing products.
There are now what, 24 million Americans unemployed? There is no shortage of labor and there won't be for many years to come. Take this example: 70%-80% of the pharmaceutical supply chain comes from China. We could go to "war" with China and they would win without having to fire a single bullet. How? All they have to do is withhold one month's supply of pharmaceuticals to the U.S. and millions of people will die w/o their BP medicine, diabetes medicine, etc. Think about that.
Let's be honest with each other for a minute. Car detailing is a luxury for people; a nice-to-have. It is not a must-have, it is not a requirement, not a necessity and not essential. I wish I could say otherwise. As long as 24 million (+) people remain unemployed, their priority will be putting food on the table, paying the electric bill; not getting their car detailed. This means far less business for those reading this post. The more people we as a nation employ, the greater number of potential customers there will be.
Again I was not addressing quality, but rather placing priority on employing our own people and ending reliance on a Communist nation, especially for companies that identify as American.
Best to all,
ScottH
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It would be great if everyone bought made in America products, employed all the workers out here, and cut out China and other countries completely. Will that happen? Of course not. Not until American companies can make equal or better quality products at better prices, similar prices or at least decent prices. If people choose to pay more for the same quality or lower quality products then they are free to do so, it's their money, but the majority are looking for value so buying goods made in other countries won't be stopping.
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What i love is how everyone wants it American made but production went to china cuz Americans want cheaper.
And I know alot of Americans who i wouldn稚 want making a dang thing for me!
And yes before someone asks I知 American.
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Coatingsarecrack
What i love is how everyone wants it American made but production went to china cuz Americans want cheaper.
And I know alot of Americans who i wouldn稚 want making a dang thing for me!
And yes before someone asks I知 American.
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The problem lies in the greed of the manufacturers.
They love to sell that idea that anything made in the USA would be "too expensive".
The truth is, they don't want to lose their huge profits from the dirt cheap labor on TOP of keeping the prices relatively the same for the products.
I read an article years ago that theoretically compared the cost and final retail price of a pack of men's T-shirts made here or in China.
The price was within one dollar of each other. But personally, if the Chinese-made shirts were $7.99, and the US-made were $10.99, I'd gladly pay the extra 3 bucks.
The idea that we cannot compete price-wise is a made-up bunch of BS. But these big companies just keep feeding that line to you so that they don't lose 1 cent of profit.
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I'll gladly pay more for something made in America. If I can't, I'll try to find it made in a European country when possible.
Problem is, there isn't a level playing field. China doesn't have the worker protections and environmental protections we have.
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Hello everyone, rather than starting a new thread I figured I'd ask this question here. I have an old GG6 and am looking to upgrade to something newer/smoother/faster and have been curious about getting into a long throw polisher. I'm very interested in the new G15 but find myself wondering i'll be able to achieve essentially the same results with the G9 and save myself $100?
I am a driveway detailer and occasionally will work on some friend's cars for a little extra cash. I'm mainly looking to cut down on the time and effort spent on polishing, I realize a lot of that is technique and pad/polish, but all things being equal would the G15 be worth the extra $100?
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If you get the G15 I'd say you still need a smaller/short throw polisher for other duties. If you're keeping your GG6 and converting it to a 3" polisher then I'd say the G15 is a better choice for you. Now if you plan on selling your GG6 or trading that in for a G15, I think you'll find that it can't do everything. If you prefer to own just one polisher I think the G9 is a good compromise and can be your only machine - I still think anyone can benefit from also owning a 3" polisher.
A G9 and G8 is a great combo for the price but since you already have a GG6 then you might not need a G8 and can just convert the GG6.
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BSoares
If you get the G15 I'd say you still need a smaller/short throw polisher for other duties. If you're keeping your GG6 and converting it to a 3" polisher then I'd say the G15 is a better choice for you. Now if you plan on selling your GG6 or trading that in for a G15, I think you'll find that it can't do everything. If you prefer to own just one polisher I think the G9 is a good compromise and can be your only machine - I still think anyone can benefit from also owning a 3" polisher.
A G9 and G8 is a great combo for the price but since you already have a GG6 then you might not need a G8 and can just convert the GG6.
Thanks for the feedback, I will be keeping the GG6 as I already have the 3" backing plate for tight spaces, it'll be nice to not have to swap out backing plates anymore! I am leaning towards the G15 as covering more ground with less effort and that is mainly what I am looking for out of the next polisher. FWIW the money isn't a deciding factor here, I'm fine with spending the extra $100, really just wanting to save time and finish projects faster.
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TwinSnails
Thanks for the feedback, I will be keeping the GG6 as I already have the 3" backing plate for tight spaces, it'll be nice to not have to swap out backing plates anymore! I am leaning towards the G15 as covering more ground with less effort and that is mainly what I am looking for out of the next polisher. FWIW the money isn't a deciding factor here, I'm fine with spending the extra $100, really just wanting to save time and finish projects faster.
Obviously no one here has used the new G15 but it will probably be a nice polisher. I have the old G15 and I have a G8. I'm really happy with that combo. The new G15 is about $100 less than the old was so you're already winning by getting it after we did :)
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That's another reason I'm leaning towards the G15, $250 seems incredibly well priced for a redesigned, newly launched product, especially when compared to the other options out there.
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TwinSnails
That's another reason I'm leaning towards the G15, $250 seems incredibly well priced for a redesigned, newly launched product, especially when compared to the other options out there.
But why get the new G15 when the new G21 only costs $10 more? You could even get a 5" BP to install on the G21. What am I missing....shouldn't the G21 be the better option?
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Sometimes a15 finishes down better than a 21
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Billy Baldone
Sometimes a15 finishes down better than a 21
Yeah my 15 finished up nicely.
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**Updated Release Date**
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**Updated Release Date**
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**Updated Release Date**
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VISITOR
**Updated Release Date**
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Le SIGH...
*** Available 7/08/20 ***
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Epilogts
Le SIGH...
*** Available 7/08/20 ***
Unfortunately, a delay (not just here but everywhere) is to be expected with all that's going on in the world right now. Good things come to those who wait and better late than never... ;)
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Curious what you know about the rumored Nano polisher they’re working on.
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2wookies
Curious what you know about the rumored Nano polisher they池e working on.
if there is one in the works, sign me up! :buffing: