Here's the boat for the 2017 Boat Detailing Class - 25' Bluewater Center Console

Here's the boat for the 2017 Boat Detailing Class - 25' Bluewater Center Console


Now this is a real-world, hands-on learning experience. Learning to restore this boat back to new condition.


25' Bluewater Center Console

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This class is coming up fast. It's the only class like it in the United States and as far as I can tell in the world.

Class date is Saturday, February 4th.

Class cost is $450.00

Here's the link to sign up on line

Marine 31 Boat Detailing Class - February 4th, 2017



Or call Andre at

1-800-869-3011 x244


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I wish I could attend but being under 25 a rental car is impossible to get. Seems like the perfect boat.

If you look carefully at these two pictures...


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Especially this tighter shot of the side of the hull....

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What you see are these lines showing where the last person that buffed out this boat tackled it section by section.

You can see the buffer trails which is the path the buffer was moved over the side of the hull.


My guess from looking at the appearance of the gel-coat is that like most boat detailers, the person that buffed this boat out did it the archaic old fashioned way using only a rotary buffer, wool pad and compound.

The results are holograms in the gel-coat, which lead to faster future oxidation and deterioration.

For anyone that doesn't know, holograms is the word used to describe and define the specific scratch pattern imparted into a surface from a rotary buffer and usually wool pads and compounds, polishes and cleaner/waxes. Just to note, you can also get holograms from foam pads on rotary buffers when used with compound, polishes and cleaner/waxes.


See my article here,

Holograms in gel-coat boats by Mike Phillips


What we teach here at our boat detailing class is how to remove gross oxidation without leaving holograms. We also teach how to machine damp sand to remove the heavy, deep oxidation instead of using the archaic caveman method of using a rotary buffer with a wool pad.


This class truly teaches how to work smarter instead of harder.


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I need to get down there and take this class...

Do you have a plan for which products you'll be using, Mike?

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Originally Posted by OTSDetail

I need to get down there and take this class...

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Do it.

The most common question I get about the boat detailing class is,

When is the next class?



I get asked this AFTER the class.


Since we only teach it once a year the answer is,

Next year in February.


We'll be promoting it at MTE and at the Stuart Boat Show and historically this class always fills up.


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Originally Posted by Hoytman

Do you have a plan for which products you'll be using, Mike?

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Yes.

Tools will include,

FLEX PE14 Rotary Polisher- Always the first rotary buffers to be grabbed by the students - For compounding

Makita Rotary Buffer - For compounding

DeWALT Rotary Buffer - For compounding

FLEX 3401 - For machine sanding

RUPES BigFoot 21, 15 and Duetto - for the finish polishing step

Griot's Garage 6" DA Polisher - For machine sanding

Griot's Garage BOSS 21 and 15 - For the finish polishing step


For compounding and polishing we'll use Marine 31 Captain's One-Step Compound and Polish. Just read my boat detailing book and you'll see WHY we use this to both compound and polish the gel-coat to perfection.

For sealing the boat I have not decided yet. I want to showcase a coating since coatings will outlast waxes and sealants.


Then of course tons of other products for all the other areas of the boat we'll address.


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Today's the day!


My good friend Lance Cedilla brought the boat by today with his big Dodge Truck. Lance is a very good friend to myself and also to Autogeek. Besides being a great friend he's also a master craftsman when it comes to upholstery for home, auto and marine.


Many of you have seen this car here at Autogeek and also on our first TV show, "What's in Autogeek's Garage"

Lance did the upholstery in this car and is very good friends with the owner and as such also got us this car for our TV show.


Blown 1934 Ford Pick-up - Show Car Makeover - Modeled by Kristin

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Lance also brought us his brand new Ford Focus RS just a few weeks ago to use in our brand new Gyeon videos which Yancy is processing as I type.

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So a huge shout out to my good friend Lance and thank you.



Back to the boat... it arrived today and while it was outside I took a few pictures to document the current condition and then I brought it inside and took a few more pictures using the SCANGRIP Multimatch light, (look for a review as soon as I get time), and also using the SCANGRIP Sunmatch light.


Here's our training boat for the class this Saturday. I've been told by Andre one guy had to cancel out so there's still time for one more person to get in on this class. The next class is NEXT YEAR.

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Here you can really tell how the once dark green has now turned chalky white...

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This is some type of paint repair...

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Here's the boat inside. When I took this picture I had not yet changed the camera settings for inside the garage so it came out a little dark.

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This is the side of the hull lit up using the SCANGRIP Multimatch on the SCANGRIP Tripod - Review coming soon...

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Now time for the SCANGRIP Sunmatch swirl finder light

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Here you can see painted gel-coat repairs and also HOLOGRAMS!

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To get a hold of Andre call 1-800-869-3011 x244



Going out to do a Test Spot and will post pics later...


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Here's the results from my Boat Test Spot


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After - This is machine sanded, rotary buffer compounded, Flex 3401 polished, RUPES BigFoot 21 Polished and Ceramic Coated


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The 2017 Marine 31 Boat Detailing Class has come to and end and the people in the class were awesome the results they achieved were nothing short of phenomenal.


Here's one parting shot taken with my iPhone - more next week!


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Wow. That's amazing work, Mike.
Can't wait to hear more about the process.

That's gonna come out really nice.

Did you guys use the meguiar's oxidation scrub by chance? or strait to sanding and compound/polish?

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Originally Posted by Mike Phillips

Yes.

Tools will include,

FLEX PE14 Rotary Polisher- Always the first rotary buffers to be grabbed by the students - For compounding

Makita Rotary Buffer - For compounding

DeWALT Rotary Buffer - For compounding

FLEX 3401 - For machine sanding

RUPES BigFoot 21, 15 and Duetto - for the finish polishing step

Griot's Garage 6" DA Polisher - For machine sanding

Griot's Garage BOSS 21 and 15 - For the finish polishing step


For compounding and polishing we'll use Marine 31 Captain's One-Step Compound and Polish. Just read my boat detailing book and you'll see WHY we use this to both compound and polish the gel-coat to perfection.

For sealing the boat I have not decided yet. I want to showcase a coating since coatings will outlast waxes and sealants.


Then of course tons of other products for all the other areas of the boat we'll address.


:)

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Hi Mike,
What Coating did you end up using at the class? How did it work out. Our conditions in Havasu are extreme on top of it the lake water is extremely hard here that is very tough on boats.
Jon

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Originally Posted by attention2detaillhc

Hi Mike,

What Coating did you end up using at the class?

How did it work out.

Our conditions in Havasu are extreme on top of it the lake water is extremely hard here that is very tough on boats.

Jon

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We used the Marine 31 Captains Coating

Marine 31 Captain's Boat Coating with UV50


The coating applies easy and I noticed this new formula wipes off easier than the previous version. The key is technique and that comes from practice. After application you wait about 40 seconds and then wipe off the high spots.



I have not gotten to the boat class pictures here yet,


Pictures: 2017 Marine 31 Boat Detailing Class - 25' Bluewater Center Console - Wetsand, Cut & Buff


But I will get to them as that's one of the ways we market the class. In other words, pictures showing what you get to do in the class helps others decide to take the class.


So stay tuned and "subscribe" to the above thread so you'll get an e-mail notification when I add the pictures.


How To Subscribe to a Thread


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Hey Mike,
Are you going to be posting pictures from last year's boat detailing class? It looks like the 2017 pictures thread is closed, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place...

Thanks,
Mike

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Hey Mike,
Are you going to be posting pictures from last year's boat detailing class? It looks like the 2017 pictures thread is closed, maybe I'm looking in the wrong place...

Thanks,
Mike

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I've been meaning to post the pictures since the day after the class.

I'd guess most people don't know how much work and how much time goes into created a picture thread. It's incredibly time consuming. And it's never because I don't want to do it - it's because I can carve out the time.

At the time of the class last year we were filming out TV show Competition Ready, so I was incredibly busy. Then came my 3- day car class, the Detail Fest, then another class and another class and so on and so on... plus all the new product reviews I write, I have a never ending job.


So just to let you know - of course I want to post them but it takes a LOT of time to simply go through the pictures let along do thing to them before uploading, like,

1. Look at EACH picture taken and pick out the best, pick out what's in focus and tells a story
2. Renaming each file
3. Cropping out the fluff
4. Resizing to 800 pixels wide
5. Uploading
6. Inserting
7. Adding words

I'll try to get to them ASAP because we use the pictures from our classes to market future classes and the next boat class is about 5 week away.

Just to note the next boat class is also almost sold out.


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Originally Posted by Mike Phillips

I've been meaning to post the pictures since the day after the class.

I'd guess most people don't know how much work and how much time goes into created a picture thread. It's incredibly time consuming. And it's never because I don't want to do it - it's because I can carve out the time.

At the time of the class last year we were filming out TV show Competition Ready, so I was incredibly busy. Then came my 3- day car class, the Detail Fest, then another class and another class and so on and so on... plus all the new product reviews I write, I have a never ending job.


So just to let you know - of course I want to post them but it takes a LOT of time to simply go through the pictures let along do thing to them before uploading, like,

1. Look at EACH picture taken and pick out the best, pick out what's in focus and tells a story
2. Renaming each file
3. Cropping out the fluff
4. Resizing to 800 pixels wide
5. Uploading
6. Inserting
7. Adding words

I'll try to get to them ASAP because we use the pictures from our classes to market future classes and the next boat class is about 5 week away.

Just to note the next boat class is also almost sold out.


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If I haven't said it, Thanks! for all the work you and your team put into these posts. It's the reason I'm here & buying from AG.

I'll start a new thread soon but I bought a new boat & I'm learning about the different options for compounding, polishing, waxing/sealing. I am very interested to learn about the Captain's Boat Coating you were planning to use on the 2017 boat vs the Wax & Seal from the year before.

Again, thanks. U da man!

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Last week I stopped in to visit Mike, I wanted to see first hand how he creates and inserts pictures into a post.

I've created post and inserted pictures in the forum before but it was taking me a long time and I wanted to see if there was an easier, more efficient way.

So Mike graciously invited me into his office and showed how he does it. He was working on an article that will soon post. I can't say anything about it but it will be very good and informative with a lot of good pictures.

I was using Photobucket before since it was easier and a little quicker inserting pictures than using the forum's method, but Photobucket made some changes last year and all of the pictures I posted in some of my posts are now gone, so I went back to the forum's method so that the pictures will be there down the road.

The process is very time consuming as Mike mentioned in his post above:

1. Look at EACH picture taken and pick out the best, pick out what's in focus and tells a story
2. Renaming each file
3. Cropping out the fluff
4. Resizing to 800 pixels wide
5. Uploading
6. Inserting
7. Adding words

Also, Mike is a busy man! While we were working on his post, he was answering phone calls, emails and private messages.

I really like Mike's posts, they are very informative, detailed and very well worded and created and I got to witness first hand the work and time that goes into creating these posts.

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If I haven't said it, Thanks! for all the work you and your team put into these posts. It's the reason I'm here & buying from AG.

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Thank you.

I always feel bad when I can't get all the pictures up from a project. It's my heart's desire, it's just a time thing...

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I'll start a new thread soon but I bought a new boat & I'm learning about the different options for compounding, polishing, waxing/sealing. I am very interested to learn about the Captain's Boat Coating you were planning to use on the 2017 boat vs the Wax & Seal from the year before.

Again, thanks. U da man!

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We did use the Captain's UV50 Boat Coating in that class and like a lot of coatings it applied easy. But the wipe-off was a tick on the sticky side.

I'm working on which coating we will be showcasing at the February 2018 class.



As for the rest of the process I show - all I can say is we create show car finishes on boats and I show you step-by-step how to do it in our annual class. I also cover this in my boat detailing book.


Here's the results from my Boat Test Spot


Before

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After - This is machine sanded, rotary buffer compounded, Flex 3401 polished, RUPES BigFoot 21 Polished and Ceramic Coated


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The trick is to work smarter instead of harder. I know that's a worn-out cliché but it's also true and that's "one" of the reasons I show machine sanding for the severely neglected boats we use in the class.


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Last week I stopped in to visit Mike, I wanted to see first hand how he creates and inserts pictures into a post.

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Thanks for stopping by Frank and it was my pleasure to show you first hand how I work with pictures to create mega-picture threads. It is time-consuming but when done correctly, the thread tells a story, solves problems, educates the masses and most important... endures over time.

Because I use the AutogeekOnline gallery and resize my pictures before uploading, my pictures never disappear. I've written plenty of articles on how to do this but what I find with most people is they don't read. No one wants to read or do any "work" any more. Everyone wants everything to be easy. That's nice. :dunno:

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I really like Mike's posts, they are very informative, detailed and very well worded and created and I got to witness first hand the work and time that goes into creating these posts.

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Thanks for the compliment Frank. I appreciate it. Here's a good example of how pictures can tell a story...


How to use the Dr. ColorChip Paint Chip Repair Systems


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And after 4 years - the pictures are still intact.


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As for the rest of the process I show - all I can say is we create show car finishes on boats and I show you step-by-step how to do it in our annual class. I also cover this in my boat detailing book.]

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I bought the book, should be arriving tomorrow. Your class sounds like exactly what I need to learn all the tools & products...

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I bought the book, should be arriving tomorrow.

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The most difficult book I ever wrote. Take your time to read through it - try not to scan it.

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Your class sounds like exactly what I need to learn all the tools & products...

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It's a GREAT class and it always sells out.

I'm happy to say, it's close to being sold out. I asked Andre to get me a head-count today, should have it by tomorrow.

It's also 98.9% out of your chair HANDS-ON!

Maybe someone that's on this forum that has taken this class will be my witness?


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Originally Posted by Mike Phillips

The most difficult book I ever wrote. Take your time to read through it - try not to scan it.

It's a GREAT class and it always sells out.

I'm happy to say, it's close to being sold out. I asked Andre to get me a head-count today, should have it by tomorrow.

It's also 98.9% out of your chair HANDS-ON!

Maybe someone that's on this forum that has taken this class will be my witness?


:)

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I've taken Mike's boat class and it's a great class.

Like all his classes, it's mostly hands on training.

You'll get experience in wet sanding, compounding with a rotary, polishing, etc.