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2020 Ceramic Coating 1 Year Test
This should be an interesting test for some of you. Before I get ahead of myself I will mention the run rules for this test.
- This will be a 1 year long test without toppers. I do this to show the performance of the coating rather than test a topper that is applied to them. That shows the performance of the topper and not the coating.
- Quarterly updates will be provided (3 months, 6 months, 9 months, 12 months).
- I will post up an update if a coating or coatings behavior changes. All of you are free to ask for updates but expect a short text answer.
- I will be doing a chemical decon during those quarterly updates to see how these coatings perform as contaminant free as possible.
- If this test turns out well then I will do one again with other brands.
- All coatings have been layered with two coats per the manufacturers recommendations other than Gyeon Syncro and Drexler Ceramic which have 3 layers of total coatings per the manufacturers recommendations.
NOTE: I will mention that the first layers sat 18 hours before I applied the second layer.
Products:
Top Row (Left to right):
- 22ple HPC – 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- 22ple Insanity – 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- Gyeon Mohs – 2 layers (1 hour between layers)
- Gyeon Syncro – 2 layers of Mohs (1 hour between layers) + 1 layer of Skin(18 hours later)
- Gyeon CanCoat – 2 layers (1 hour between layers)
Middle Row:
- Drexler Ceramic - Base Coat 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- Drexler Ceramic – Base Coat 2 layers (18 hours between layers) + Top Coat(1 hour after the second layer of Base Coat)
- IGL Quartz+ - Base (1 layer) + Top (1 layer 18 hours later)
- SPS Graphene – 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- Cquartz UK 3.0 – 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- Cquartz Lite – 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
Bottom Row:
- Jade Ice - 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- Jade Quartz - 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- Shine Supply Beadlock Pro - 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- Cquartz TiO2 - 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- Adams UV Paint Coating - 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
- Adams UV Spray Coating - 2 layers (18 hours between layers)
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SPS Graphene is placed in the middle to compare it to the other coatings which are quartz based with Gyeon Syncro being an exception. IGL was placed next to SPS to compare two professional coatings. Thanks goes out to the two forum members who supplied IGL and SPS to me.
22ple Insanity and Shine Supply Beadlock Pro are new coatings that were released late 2019.
Adams implemented their patented UV ceramic glow technology for these new versions of their coatings that were released late 2019.
From an application standpoint, I had no issues with any of these. But then again I have been applying coatings for a long time now. But they are all user friendly.
From a slickness standpoint this is how I would personally rate them. This will vary between each person. I am basing this after a 24 hour cure time from the last applied layer.
It is by no means scientific but I based this on how the coatings felt as I brushed my hand on the surface. I went over the areas a few times and compared them to each other and based my list on what I my personal ranking.
- SPSGraphene – This coating is slick and from experience stays slick for a few months. It barely beat Gyeon Syncro and Cquartz TiO2 in this category.
- Gyeon Syncro – Skin has always been the star of the show with this coating. So nice to apply and so slick upon removal. I hope it performs better this time around.
- CquartzTiO2 – I don’t recall this coating feeling that slick. It almost felt like it was reformulated a bit. But I have not used it in 18 months.
- Adams UV Paint Coating – To me this feels like a sleeper coating. Long term performance will dictate if it can compete with the big names in the coating industry.
- Jade Ice – This was a surprise in terms of slickness. Overall real nice to work with.
- Drexler Ceramic(Base Coat + Top Coat)– the top coat is what adds slickness to the base coat which is tacky.
- Shine Supply Beadlock Pro
- Jade Quartz – Tacky went wiped off
- Adams Spray UV Coating
- 22ple Insanity – The 22ple reps on social media hyped this coating as being slick. I was expecting it to be as slick at the coatings above it.
- 22ple HPC
- Gyeon Mohs – Tends to tack up as it cures unlike the slick feeling upon wipe off.
- IGL Quartz+ - The base is very tacky after it begins to cure. Top has the typical tacky coating sensation. Was expecting this to feel slicker.
- Cquartz Lite
- Gyeon CanCoat
- Cquartz UK 3.0
- Drexler Ceramic Base Coat – Very tacky after it begins to cure unlike how slick it is during wipe off.
In terms of this list it is a toss up between number 5 thru 11. They could easily be arranged in any order. It is that close.
I went through many suede applicators for these coatings other than Drexler Top Coat, Gyeon CanCoat and Adams Spray Coating which were applied by using a microfiber applicator.
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This is the transition point to the Adams coatings. I will monitor this to see if it is an indicator of the coating degrading over time.
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From a cost perspective (least to most per ml). I separated them into two categories. I took the retail price and did not included any discounts. Smart shopping is the best time to purchase a coating.
Coating Lite:
- Adams Spray Coating 236.5mlat $26 = 0.11/ml
- Gyeon CanCoat 200ml at $54.99 = 0.27/ml
- Cquartz Lite 150ml at $44.99 = 0.30/ml
From a cost perspective Adams UV Spray coating comes in the cheapest per ml. Cquartz Lite comes in on the high end out of the tree products. We will see how they perform in the long term.
Coating Full:
- Jade Ice 50ml at $60.48 = $1.21/ml
- Drexler Ceramic (Base Coat 30ml, Top Coat 50ml) – An average of 40ml’s includes both products at $69.90 = $1.75/ml
- Jade Quartz 50ml at $90.80 = $1.82/ml
- Cquartz UK 3.0 30ml at$54.99= $1.83/ml
- Cquartz TiO2 30ml at$57.99=$1.93/ml
- Adams UV Paint Coating 50ml at $100 = $2.00/ml
- Gyeon Mohs 50mlat $129.99 = $2.60/ml
- 22ple HPC 30ml at $109.99 = $3.67/ml
- Shine Supply Beadlock Pro 30ml at $115 = $3.83/ml
- 22ple Insanity 30ml at $134.99 = $4.50/ml
- Gyeon Syncro (Mohs 50ml, Skin 30ml) - An average of 40ml’s includes both products at $179.99= $4.50/ml
I had to take an average for Drexler Ceramic and Gyeon Syncro so their price is not exact per ml. But doing so Gyeon Syncro and 22ple Insanity have the highest cost per ml. Jade Ice comes in at the lowest per ml. We will see how each of these performs in the long term to determine if the performance justifies the price for any of these coatings.
The next update will be a first wash video to have a baseline of the beading and sheeting for each coating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbm80diFWY4
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NICE NICE, can't wait for the updates. As far as the coating lites would you say the amount uses for all 3 was pretty close? Adam's is a lot cheaper, if it holds up to their claims that could be a really killer coating lite product.
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Wowwwww! Looking forward to seeing the results.
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Wow thanks for doing this. Enjoy all of your product evaluations but this is over the top!
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This is going to be a good one.
How many of those can the public NOT purchase at this time?
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j.williams at perpetualradiance
NICE NICE, can't wait for the updates. As far as the coating lites would you say the amount uses for all 3 was pretty close? Adam's is a lot cheaper, if it holds up to their claims that could be a really killer coating lite product.
For the CanCoat and Adams since they are sprays then yes about the same. The Adams sprayers are new and they have less mist dispersal. The edge would go to Adams over CanCoat in terms of spraying. CQ Lite is applied more like a coating so hard to equate a spray and drops on a micro suede.
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Markymapo
Wowwwww! Looking forward to seeing the results.
You and me both.
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cyclops
Wow thanks for doing this. Enjoy all of your product evaluations but this is over the top!
Thanks.
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spazzz
This is going to be a good one.
How many of those can the public NOT purchase at this time?
IGL Quartz+ and SPS Graphene are not available to the public. These are authorized installed only. All the rest can be purchased.
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Patiently watching
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Very cool test Mike.
Over-the-top info on coatings for the forum.
Awesome as always. :)
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Sweet. Coming from you, I know this will be a good one to follow. Much appreciate run rule #1
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Cruzscarwash
Patiently watching
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Same here.
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PaulMys
Very cool test Mike.
Over-the-top info on coatings for the forum.
Awesome as always. :)
Thanks. I figured someone can look back and find something useful in the future.
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JustJesus
Sweet. Coming from you, I know this will be a good one to follow. Much appreciate run rule #1
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Thanks. I had to get rule #1 across. Some folks get fixated on toppers and that they are required when they are not.
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Whew! My eyes started crossing looking at all of those squares. Kudos to you Mike. Subscribed.
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Wow Guz, this was a lot of work! Looking forward to the results.
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Wow! Great job Guz. I'm looking forward to the test results over the next year.
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I will try to mirror my other response: THANK YOU so very much for taking time, effort, product, etc to do this extremely interesting test/experiment! Some very valuable information shall be gained!
Thanks again Guz, you are a huge asset to this online community!
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Guz, sorry to clutter the thread with the obvious, but it has to be said - you are certifiably awesome.
Thank you for investing the time, money, and energy into thinking this through and executing it. Not only is it great that you’ve got all these different products next to each other, but your long running experience with coatings makes this even more valuable. Also greatly appreciate your straight-shooting honesty when it comes to the experience, from application to performance.
Looking forward to following along!
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We had some light rain overnight. Some areas didn’t have much standing water as it was starting to dry.
Good side by side of Mohs and Syncro
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Awesome test and I must say a lot of work. Super interested in how the SPS Graphene holds up. It's suppose to take over the Sio2 market shortly.
Will this test car be driven? If you do you will get all sorts of comments.
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Rsurfer
Awesome test and I must say a lot of work. Super interested in how the SPS Graphene holds up. It's suppose to take over the Sio2 market shortly.
Will this test car be driven? If you do you will get all sorts of comments.
It’s on my daily driver that sits outside 24/7 and I drive weekly to and from work.
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The Guz
It’s on my daily driver that sits outside 24/7 and I drive weekly to and from work.
Glad it's not summer time or you will need some Goo Gone to remove the tape residue.
Tape will probably need to be changed periodically.
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Rsurfer
Glad it's not summer time or you will need some Goo Gone to remove the tape residue.
Tape will probably need to be changed periodically.
I have no residue from the tape. It is all gone. It was in the 70’s when I did this. It’s basically summer here almost of the year.
I was more concerned with wiping excess coating that gets under the tape to not get a hard edge.
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So you already removed the tape. How are you going to distinguish the sections months down the road?
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Rsurfer
So you already removed the tape. How are you going to distinguish the sections months down the road?
Overlaying with the original picture. See post 17 how he did it.
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Rsurfer
So you already removed the tape. How are you going to distinguish the sections months down the road?
Yea just scroll up a little bit in this same thread... You’ll find post #17. There’s a couple pictures with a dozen or so different names of where he used the products.
You could even choose to save those pics onto your phone and look at them again in a matter of seconds... It’s amazing what we can do in the year 2020.[emoji336][emoji23]Lol.
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The IGL Quartz + Has a 12 hour max wait time between coating layers. Any longer and the base has cured too far to allow proper chemical bonding between the 2 layers so there is a possibly that coating may suffer because of that . But who knows we will see
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DarkThrottle
The IGL Quartz + Has a 12 hour max wait time between coating layers. Any longer and the base has cured too far to allow proper chemical bonding between the 2 layers so there is a possibly that coating may suffer because of that . But who knows we will see
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Should be fine. There is a bit of leeway when it comes to layering of coatings.
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Awesome, this thread couldnt come on a better moment!
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Guz,
Would you be willing to explain "contact angle"? I've begun to see the term used a bit and would like to know more.
Thanks!
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mk9750
Guz,
Would you be willing to explain "contact angle"? I've begun to see the term used a bit and would like to know more.
Thanks!
Check out this video for the concept. About 1:10 into
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyH_fCSNKtg
Pulled from IGL.
The common behaviour of liquids is that it has a tendency to stick to things, including itself. Therefore, a surface is classified as either hydrophobic (scared of water) or hydrophilic (loving water) by the way it interacts with liquid, specifically water droplets.
A droplet that has absolutely no interaction with a surface will bead up into a perfect sphere and will have a contact angle of 180°whilst a water droplet that completely wets the surface has a contact angle of 0°.
https://blog.iglcoatings.com/wp-cont...against-it.jpg
Contact Angle Significance
If the water droplet sticks more to the surface than itself, that surface is hydrophilic and the water droplet will have a contact angle of less than 90°.
If the water droplet has a tendency to stick to itself more than it sticks to the surface, that surface is hydrophobic and water droplets will bead up to a contact angle of more than 90°.
https://blog.iglcoatings.com/wp-cont...he-surface.jpg
The term superhydrophobic (also ultrahydrophobic) occurs when the effective contact angle of water drops is 150° or higher. There are many examples of naturally occurring superhydrophobic surfaces. These include both plants and insects surfaces.
One of the most notable superhydrophobic surface in nature is that of the lotus leaf. The extreme water repellency exhibited by lotus leaves is what inspired scientists to initially pursue research into superhydrophobic phenomena.
https://blog.iglcoatings.com/wp-cont...er-quality.jpg
Superhydrophobic is used to describe a surface that exhibits both advancing and receding contact angles of higher than 150°.
The angle at which a water drop rolls off a tilted flat surface is known as the roll-off angle. Generally, superhydrophobic surfaces exhibit roll-off angles less than 5°, but very high quality superhydrophobic surfaces can exhibit roll-off angles of less than 1°.
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Thank for putting together and sharing Mike. Will be following along.
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Guz, Thanks for taking the time. I appreciate the info. I certainly learned something!
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Awesome info, thanks Guz
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It has been a little over a month and I am already starting to see some changes in hydrophobics with the car sitting outside 24/7.
Best Self cleaning effect: (Top 5)
Gyeon Syncro. As I mentioned from previous experience its initial performance is top notch. Lets see is it holds out or fizzles out in about 5 months total when Skin starts to show signs of degradation.
SPS Graphene
Cquartz UK 3.0
IGL
Adams UV Ceramic
Loss of hydrophobics.
Drexler Ceramic (Base Coat + Top Coat) - this has turned into sheeting like Gyeon Mohs. Water lays flat on the surface. Seems like it is either an application issue or the top coat is indeed already degrading.
Adams UV Spray Coating - This showed signs of slowing down after the first wash. It has one of the worst self cleaning effects. Turning into sheeting.
Cquartz TiO2 - This has started to turn into sheeting and its water beading has started to become more oblong shape. I believe this is looking like an application error as I have experienced this to perform on par with CQUK 3.0 on my hood for the last 20 months. It is not the first time I see application inconsistencies with it. I am going to leave it for now but I am to the point where I will not be focusing too much on it and will include is with test #2 next year.
The remaining coatings seem to be doing fine.
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The Guz
It has been a little over a month and I am already starting to see some changes in hydrophobics with the car sitting outside 24/7.
Best Self cleaning effect: (Top 5)
Gyeon Syncro. As I mentioned from previous experience its initial performance is top notch. Lets see is it holds out or fizzles out in about 5 months total when Skin starts to show signs of degradation.
SPS Graphene
Cquartz UK 3.0
IGL
Adams UV Ceramic
Loss of hydrophobics.
Drexler Ceramic (Base Coat + Top Coat) - this has turned into sheeting like Gyeon Mohs. Water lays flat on the surface. Seems like it is either an application issue or the top coat is indeed already degrading.
Adams UV Spray Coating - This showed signs of slowing down after the first wash. It has one of the worst self cleaning effects. Turning into sheeting.
Cquartz TiO2 - This has started to turn into sheeting and its water beading has started to become more oblong shape. I believe this is looking like an application error as I have experienced this to perform on par with CQUK 3.0 on my hood for the last 20 months. It is not the first time I see application inconsistencies with it. I am going to leave it for now but I am to the point where I will not be focusing too much on it and will include is with test #2 next year.
The remaining coatings seem to be doing fine.
Hello,
I just purchased cquartztio2. It hasn’t arrived yet. Do you think I will be better of with U.K.? I emailed carpro with another question and they recommended TiO2.
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Thanks for the update Guz!
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waterman
Hello,
I just purchased cquartztio2. It hasn’t arrived yet. Do you think I will be better of with U.K.? I emailed carpro with another question and they recommended TiO2.
It depends on what you are looking for. For more reflectivity TiO2 beats CQUK 3.0 due to the TiO2.
CQUK 3.0 forks the harder surface while TiO2 offers better stain resistance.
On my daily both have performed the same at 20 months.
In the end it doesn’t matter because people top their coatings with something. So it’s a wash at that point.
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Interesting that CQuartz Lite is like a mix of those 2
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The Guz
It has been a little over a month and I am already starting to see some changes in hydrophobics with the car sitting outside 24/7.
Best Self cleaning effect: (Top 5)
Gyeon Syncro. As I mentioned from previous experience its initial performance is top notch. Lets see is it holds out or fizzles out in about 5 months total when Skin starts to show signs of degradation.
SPS Graphene
Cquartz UK 3.0
IGL
Adams UV Ceramic
Loss of hydrophobics.
Drexler Ceramic (Base Coat + Top Coat) - this has turned into sheeting like Gyeon Mohs. Water lays flat on the surface. Seems like it is either an application issue or the top coat is indeed already degrading.
Adams UV Spray Coating - This showed signs of slowing down after the first wash. It has one of the worst self cleaning effects. Turning into sheeting.
Cquartz TiO2 - This has started to turn into sheeting and its water beading has started to become more oblong shape. I believe this is looking like an application error as I have experienced this to perform on par with CQUK 3.0 on my hood for the last 20 months. It is not the first time I see application inconsistencies with it. I am going to leave it for now but I am to the point where I will not be focusing too much on it and will include is with test #2 next year.
The remaining coatings seem to be doing fine.
Howz the 22ple stuff doing, HPC vs Insanity?
I'm starting to get a little curiously suspicious of topcoat longevity like Skin, EXO and similar. Although my experience with them is in no maintenance, 'fire and forget' mode. They just seem to fade away somewhat quickly . Gliss V2 is still doing good n top of the CQ UK 3 from last year but it's only accumulated 7500 miles since application. Maybe they just need more frequent and particular maintenance.
Gyeon really needs to sell Skin as a separate product...Syncro/Skin is galactically good right after application.
Good stuff, thanks for doing this.