Pinnacle Paintwork Cleansing Lotion

**Velocitybts** · 11-20-2014, 09:10 PM

I have been searching for a panel wipe type product to thoroughly cleans the surface before Coating applications. One major issue I have is that almost always I am doing a Black Car. Never done a yellow, grey, maroon, etc.... On Black I keep having an issue with micro marring. Paint is perfect, then a panel wipe product (either IPA, GTechniq panel wipe, PCL, etc...) and a light microfiber cloth to remove or wipe with. Every time there is small micro marring that occurs. Even talked with Mike Phillips about it. I have just resorted to always washing vehicle after all polishing with Dawn x2 to remove all oils. Then air dry before Coatings or LSP's. Seems to work well and that wash right after is needed to remove any dust anyway. But thought this was a great product so got samples and it did the same thing. I have switched up MF towels, and tried everything, but same results. Just my experience with it. Black it appears is the only color along with Dark Blue that the micro marring shows. I am sure its still there on white, red and others but just not visible.

**FUNX650** · 11-21-2014, 12:01 AM

•To make heads or tails of this, IMO:
-You're going to have to put names/types of the "fillers" that are used in the this particular car-care product.

Here's a few names/synonyms of "fillers":
-calcium carbonate, diatomaceous earth (DE), clay, mica,
kaolinite, kaolin clay, calcined kaolin clay, and feldspar.

•Although the above "fillers" may not hold the same
distinction as "sized milled-abrasives" that's used for compounding/polishing purposes...
-Can these "fillers" not also be abrasive substances---abrasive substances that will, among other things: enhance vehicles' paint's gloss, as would many abrasive polishes?

RE: 8X...Dr. G
•It's been mentioned before that the tools to obtain such photos are readily available at many retailers...
even Wally World.

•Someday, to REALLY see what the heck is going on
with vehicles' topmost film-coat:
-Look at it under a 30X magnification.
-These magnifiers are also available at a variety of stores.

Bob

**sg.** · 11-21-2014, 01:34 AM

Originally Posted by Velocitybts

On Black I keep having an issue with micro marring. Paint is perfect, then a panel wipe product (either IPA, GTechniq panel wipe, PCL, etc...) and a light microfiber cloth to remove or wipe with. Every time there is small micro marring that occurs.

That is a good observation. JunkMan2000 demonstrates this phenomenon as follows (and later offers his solution):

Note: links to video below have been inserted as html code because when the links were embedded in the "usual way" the video always started at time 0 and I wanted the video to start by jumping to the time of interest. To watch the video, please copy-and-paste the specified http addresses.

1) Before: perfect black paint (jumps to 2m 10s)

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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDevg-0x0jI&t=2m10s

2) Perfect paint covered with very fine dust

HTML Code:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDevg-0x0jI&t=6m50s

3) Minute marring after a wipe with lots of fluid

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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqdjRwsXoOM&t=1m30s

JunkMan2000 then goes on to demonstrate his method for removing such fine dust without marring the paint -- the "after video" for his method shows no marring.