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PBL and Aquawax 951, strange situation
About 3 weeks ago we cleaned and polished my son's jeep. We finished it with PBL Diamond Coating. This past weekend I was away, my son washed the jeep and then grabs a bottle of 951 to use as a QD. Last night he comes to me and says, the finish feels rough.
I went out and took a look and it did feel rough. I could not see anything on it, but the over all feeling was like that of a paint overspray. I tried a soft MF towel and some Waterless wash on a section and no change. I then tried some QD, nothing. Last I tried a clay bar and it came right off. A very light clay treatment and it is back to normal. Yes I know wax is not needed but he is at least keeping it clean. I explained to him about the life span of a coating and this shouldn't happen again.
A couple of questions:
1: Could these two be incompatible?
2: Would the clay have removed the PBL?
3: Has anyone else experienced something like this?
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Re: PBL and Aquawax 951, strange situation
1- ???
2- Claying won't remove PBL
3- First I've heard of it
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Re: PBL and Aquawax 951, strange situation
Next time try using Meguairs NXT Generation 2.0 Paste wax. It's about $21.00 for an 11 oz can and goes over the PBL Diamond Paint Coating to a mirror finish and great water beading. I just completed the NXT Generation 2.0 detail over my 2014 Porsche Cayman 981 with Fantastic results. The product can be bought anywhere. Easy on, easy off application.
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Re: PBL and Aquawax 951, strange situation
Honestly It was not my goal. He thought he was doing the right thing and used the way instead of the QD. It was just a really weird situation. I might do a test this weekend on my car and see what happens.
Could it be a bad interaction between the products?
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Re: PBL and Aquawax 951, strange situation
Are we sure he didn't get some overspray from somewhere he drove/parked?
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Originally Posted by Rayaz
Are we sure he didn't get some overspray from somewhere he drove/parked?
Wouldn't the coating protect from that?
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Re: PBL and Aquawax 951, strange situation
Originally Posted by richzak
Next time try using Meguairs NXT Generation 2.0 Paste wax. It's about $21.00 for an 11 oz can and goes over the PBL Diamond Paint Coating to a mirror finish and great water beading. I just completed the NXT Generation 2.0 detail over my 2014 Porsche Cayman 981 with Fantastic results. The product can be bought anywhere. Easy on, easy off application.
Slgihtly biased based off previous posts but I get it.
Why anyone tops coating is beyond me, takes all teh characteristics of the coating away.
Back to the full-time grind.
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Re: PBL and Aquawax 951, strange situation
I agree, no reason to use the Wax. Saturday I am going to try an experiment and see what happens if I apply it over another panel coated.
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Bill, the President of DG, told me to wait 6 monthes before I could use AW on the new DGNCC (DuraGloss Nanoglass Ceramic Coating) and although your talking about a different coating it might just apply to all coatings. That said, AW isn't going to make ANYTHING feel rough!
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Some say..."He likes Swedish fish because they're made with caranuba wax"
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As time goes on with continued experience with coatings it will become more apparent to old school waxers that coatings are not your fathers LSP. When you think of all the work and expense to get paint surgically clean in preparation for a coating just to top it with anything that either takes away the coatings properties or potentially reacts negatively with it...makes no sense especially topping with carnauba waxes. That is certifiably insane when coatings are great at sheeting and repelling...and waxes grab, attract, and hold onto anything passing by.
In my day we didn't have the Internet, iPods,iPads, or smart phones....but we had some really bad-azz cars.
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