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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Compound/Polish

    I posted something earlier in the week here on the Blackfire Clay Mitt cleaner. Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwoolfso View Post
    I posted something earlier in the week here on the Blackfire Clay Mitt cleaner. Amazing.
    I'm getting that.

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    Example of what? You do know pinnacle black label is a "premium" brand? They make no secret of it. Not everybody is looking for the cheapest brands or the best bang for your buck deals. There are a whole group of people in this world like myself that are willing to pay more money for the finest ingredients or best products available. It's nothing to feel bad about. You cant expect the rest of the world to think like you.


    Just get over it. There's plenty of bargin basement type places for people like yourself to shop at. I dont see why you feel the need to criticize other people for not being cheap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnews View Post
    Example of what? You do know pinnacle black label is a "premium" brand? They make no secret of it. Not everybody is looking for the cheapest brands or the best bang for your buck deals. There are a whole group of people in this world like myself that are willing to pay more money for the finest ingredients or best products available. It's nothing to feel bad about. You cant expect the rest of the world to think like you.


    Just get over it. There's plenty of bargin basement type places for people like yourself to shop at. I dont see why you feel the need to criticize other people for not being cheap?
    If you can explain to me, completely objectively, what makes those products mentioned better than other options at a different price point, Iíd love to hear it.

    The simple fact is that literally no one on this forum knows whatís in that bottle. Not a single soul except the company that manufacturers that product could tell you what -actually- makes it different than 303 rubber cleaner, or another premium compound.

    Little tangent here: I appreciate 3Ds more transparent nature when talking about their products. I seldom here other companies go into as much detail as they do about the abrasives they use, granted itís not like they tell you everything. But I appreciate what they do tell you.

    If you want to pay an ultra premium for performance that, and this is an assumption of mine (albeit one thatís been true on more than one occasion), is going to be at best on par with what the industry currently has to offer: by all means. Itís your money. But donít belittle people to justify your inability to think critically about what youíre purchasing.

    Because the simple fact is that you donít know what youíre buying. You just see a higher price tag and assume youíre getting the best. Which is very silly and very naive.

    All that being said: will the products work? Yeah probably. I used the regular pinnacle advanced compound, swirl remover, and finishing polish with great success. They work wonderfully, and the only reason I sold off some of them (I kept 16oz of the compound and swirl remover) was because I simply wanted more space.

    But even with those products, Iíve found griots FCC to do just as good of a job as the pinnacle compound/swirl remover. HD polish+ and PC both gave me the same results as the finishing polish.

    Paying a premium for a product is warranted, but at a certain point youíre just paying for a name. Going from ultimate compound to FCC was a night and day difference (worth noting that paired with an aggressive pad Iíve seen UC do some impressive defect removal) but that came with a jump in price.

    When a product cost is 30-50% more than leading competitors, it better offer a significant boost in performance as well to justify that drastic difference. Iíd love to see reviews come out on these products where people canít believe what theyíre seeing. But I really just expect to see what I see everywhere else: ďyep, it works!Ē


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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Compound/Polish

    Iíll have a review up for everyone soon...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Finick View Post
    If you can explain to me, completely objectively, what makes those products mentioned better than other options at a different price point, Iíd love to hear it.

    The simple fact is that literally no one on this forum knows whatís in that bottle. Not a single soul except the company that manufacturers that product could tell you what -actually- makes it different than 303 rubber cleaner, or another premium compound.

    Little tangent here: I appreciate 3Ds more transparent nature when talking about their products. I seldom here other companies go into as much detail as they do about the abrasives they use, granted itís not like they tell you everything. But I appreciate what they do tell you.

    If you want to pay an ultra premium for performance that, and this is an assumption of mine (albeit one thatís been true on more than one occasion), is going to be at best on par with what the industry currently has to offer: by all means. Itís your money. But donít belittle people to justify your inability to think critically about what youíre purchasing.

    Because the simple fact is that you donít know what youíre buying. You just see a higher price tag and assume youíre getting the best. Which is very silly and very naive.

    All that being said: will the products work? Yeah probably. I used the regular pinnacle advanced compound, swirl remover, and finishing polish with great success. They work wonderfully, and the only reason I sold off some of them (I kept 16oz of the compound and swirl remover) was because I simply wanted more space.

    But even with those products, Iíve found griots FCC to do just as good of a job as the pinnacle compound/swirl remover. HD polish+ and PC both gave me the same results as the finishing polish.

    Paying a premium for a product is warranted, but at a certain point youíre just paying for a name. Going from ultimate compound to FCC was a night and day difference (worth noting that paired with an aggressive pad Iíve seen UC do some impressive defect removal) but that came with a jump in price.

    When a product cost is 30-50% more than leading competitors, it better offer a significant boost in performance as well to justify that drastic difference. Iíd love to see reviews come out on these products where people canít believe what theyíre seeing. But I really just expect to see what I see everywhere else: ďyep, it works!Ē


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    Hey Finick! I'm 30%-50% better just by putting my name on itPinnacle Black Label Compound/Polish lol j/k

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    As I mentioned in an earlier thread, PBL products apply very sparingly as they are super concentrated. This is part of their premium products argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fightnews View Post
    Example of what? You do know pinnacle black label is a "premium" brand? They make no secret of it. Not everybody is looking for the cheapest brands or the best bang for your buck deals. There are a whole group of people in this world like myself that are willing to pay more money for the finest ingredients or best products available. It's nothing to feel bad about. You cant expect the rest of the world to think like you.


    Just get over it. There's plenty of bargin basement type places for people like yourself to shop at. I dont see why you feel the need to criticize other people for not being cheap?
    really..I wish had deep pocket like you.." There are a whole group of people in this world like myself that are willing to pay more money for the finest ingredients or best products available. It's nothing to feel bad about. You cant expect the rest of the world to think like you."

    made my day..i see so much salt..i do shop bargain when it comes to car care products griots megs 3d all quality products and they do excellent job..I dont see any new groundbreaking tech in polishes..Quality ingredients only matter to me when it comes to food..
    "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality." - Ayn Ran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finick View Post
    If you can explain to me, completely objectively, what makes those products mentioned better than other options at a different price point, Iíd love to hear it.

    The simple fact is that literally no one on this forum knows whatís in that bottle. Not a single soul except the company that manufacturers that product could tell you what -actually- makes it different than 303 rubber cleaner, or another premium compound.

    Little tangent here: I appreciate 3Ds more transparent nature when talking about their products. I seldom here other companies go into as much detail as they do about the abrasives they use, granted itís not like they tell you everything. But I appreciate what they do tell you.

    If you want to pay an ultra premium for performance that, and this is an assumption of mine (albeit one thatís been true on more than one occasion), is going to be at best on par with what the industry currently has to offer: by all means. Itís your money. But donít belittle people to justify your inability to think critically about what youíre purchasing.

    Because the simple fact is that you donít know what youíre buying. You just see a higher price tag and assume youíre getting the best. Which is very silly and very naive.

    All that being said: will the products work? Yeah probably. I used the regular pinnacle advanced compound, swirl remover, and finishing polish with great success. They work wonderfully, and the only reason I sold off some of them (I kept 16oz of the compound and swirl remover) was because I simply wanted more space.

    But even with those products, Iíve found griots FCC to do just as good of a job as the pinnacle compound/swirl remover. HD polish+ and PC both gave me the same results as the finishing polish.

    Paying a premium for a product is warranted, but at a certain point youíre just paying for a name. Going from ultimate compound to FCC was a night and day difference (worth noting that paired with an aggressive pad Iíve seen UC do some impressive defect removal) but that came with a jump in price.

    When a product cost is 30-50% more than leading competitors, it better offer a significant boost in performance as well to justify that drastic difference. Iíd love to see reviews come out on these products where people canít believe what theyíre seeing. But I really just expect to see what I see everywhere else: ďyep, it works!Ē


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    Re: Pinnacle Black Label Compound/Polish

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    I’ll have a review up for everyone soon...

    cant wait..
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