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    I think you're right on the mark with those 3 vehicles, they would have been popular here, and you can call me pedantic, but none of them are cars. You've got a 4x4, an SUV, and a light duty ute, which Toyota looks to be copying with a new Stout.

    The Capri, and the Mustang Mach Efor that matter, should have been 2 door sports cars, and maybe EV and Hybrid, with what they actually are, they should have been called something different.

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    I think at this point where all "car" makers are focused on SUV's, most people would just associate the term "car" with just about anybody style.

    Ford killed off all of their sedans/hatches to focus on SUV's, trucks and commercial vehicles, saying that's what buyers wanted. Granted, that mentality was largely the focus of the US market, but its spread across the rest of their empire. But then they decided to limit these new SUV's and trucks to the US market, completely blind to the fact that Bronco has internation recognition, Explorer being on RWD platform would have been a perfect Territory replacement, and that Maverick would easily have sold well in Australia and European markets. Defenders would say that those vehicles are not made in RHD. But come on, just about every other car company has no trouble making cars on BOTH RHD and LHD. I JUST DONT GET IT.

    Now they tell us they want customers we need to buy small cars again. Which is it Ford? They had a great range of small cars but decided they were not worth pursuing from a financial standpoint. Then they killed off Australian manufacturing, pulled out of Japan and India.

    Ford CEO Wants Americans to 'Get Back in Love' With the Small Cars Ford Gave Up On

    I also hate Ford using the Carpri and Mustang name on vehicles that have absolutely no association with those models. I get what they are doing, using a recognizable nameplate to have market cut-through in the electric sector, but its a cringe worthy move. Mustang has such a specific audience and reputation, all they did was upset the faithful customers who supported the Mustang name going all the way back to the 1960's. Capri will be the same. I've always said, if they wanted to use a heritage nameplate, they should have used something like "Galaxy" as that has far less "baggage" or preconceived notions than Mustang or Carpri. Mustang Mach E would have been Galaxy Mach E, Capri would have been Galaxy Mach C and so on.

    Anyway, what would I know, I'm just a lifelong Ford customer.

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    The new Porsche 992.2 hybrid, yes, I would like this hybrid.


    https://youtu.be/kornoUZmXmo?si=XPk5OysZGK-aPcZi

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    I forgot I watched this one yesterday, please watch this one either with your headphones on, or on something with the good speakers, both these McLarens sound fantastic, my new favourite V8 soundtracks.

    https://youtu.be/XwBRcKiNgTA?si=85rHQn_6Oi5Pyjw-

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    amazing how tolerant/chill some bodybuilders can be...
    i am the jump starter.

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    This is why Jeep's market share continues to drop in Australia, a lot of brands have reliability issues, but if the after sales service keeps failing, your reputation is gone.


    https://youtu.be/-Ie_cQq4JOU?si=oJbyUWYqalv58FHU



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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dave View Post
    This is why Jeep's market share continues to drop in Australia, a lot of brands have reliability issues, but if the after sales service keeps failing, your reputation is gone.


    https://youtu.be/-Ie_cQq4JOU?si=oJbyUWYqalv58FHU



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    I happened to overhear a conversation between two guys while enjoying a coffee in a cafe just before the pandemic, so after Jeep sales had crashed. One of the guys was the dealer principle of the local Jeep/FAC/Stellantis dealership. While he praised the product itself, he was deeply scathing of how inept FCA was in providing aftersales support to dealers, and in turn, customers. Think no parts backup in the country, which therefore extends the wait times for vehicles to be repaired, often leaving the customer without the vehicle for months and months. So even the very best, most attentive dealership service department couldn't repair cars in a timely manner because FCA's lack of support.

    The above was then exaggerated by FCA's insistence on volume at any cost approach. (Apparently FCA were simply sending cars to Australia and offloading them to dealers whether they wanted the stock or not. Actually, the dealer network ended up suing FCA for this). So, while that meant great sales numbers, when things went wrong or needed warranty repair, the dealership service network couldn't keep up. The volume of FCA/Jeep/RAM dealers in Australia is relatively small, so while the sales side could easily send them out of the dealership, the service department simply didn't have that volume ability.

    The flow on to all that ends up being 1000's and 1000's of customers being burned by a lack of service and slow warranty repairs...........................so they went elsewhere. What's that saying? "You reap what you sow"...................

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    I happened to overhear a conversation between two guys while enjoying a coffee in a cafe just before the pandemic, so after Jeep sales had crashed. One of the guys was the dealer principle of the local Jeep/FAC/Stellantis dealership. While he praised the product itself, he was deeply scathing of how inept FCA was in providing aftersales support to dealers, and in turn, customers. Think no parts backup in the country, which therefore extends the wait times for vehicles to be repaired, often leaving the customer without the vehicle for months and months. So even the very best, most attentive dealership service department couldn't repair cars in a timely manner because FCA's lack of support.

    The above was then exaggerated by FCA's insistence on volume at any cost approach. (Apparently FCA were simply sending cars to Australia and offloading them to dealers whether they wanted the stock or not. Actually, the dealer network ended up suing FCA for this). So, while that meant great sales numbers, when things went wrong or needed warranty repair, the dealership service network couldn't keep up. The volume of FCA/Jeep/RAM dealers in Australia is relatively small, so while the sales side could easily send them out of the dealership, the service department simply didn't have that volume ability.

    The flow on to all that ends up being 1000's and 1000's of customers being burned by a lack of service and slow warranty repairs...........................so they went elsewhere. What's that saying? "You reap what you sow"...................
    There's been a couple of cases now where Grand Cherokee owners have been hit with repair bills up around $40k, for vehicles that aren't even worth that anymore.

    In this case the couple were from Qld, they had a Compass Trailhawk, and it's crapped itself a few times, including up in the Victorian high country while on holiday, and they just can't fix it, so they want their money back, and it looks like they're going to get it.

    We really need to get proper lemon laws here, a while back Jeep said they understood they had let their customers down, and they were going to fix it, I guess not.

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