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    Re: Call to Ban YouTubers

    Quote Originally Posted by Rsurfer View Post
    The biggest mistake he made here on AG is not checking back and answering questions members had on his reviews.

    I guess he made his money from the manufacture and could care less what comments or questions we had.
    He does that everywhere. That was my initial beef about the matter. I really never cared he dropped links so long as the forum or site didn't care or he legit sponsored them. However, he literally dropped links and left. No conversations, no constructive banter or discussion, etc.

    He then did banter with me over tossing out wipe off towels on coating jobs and got a little over the line so then I did too. He's flat out wrong and never would own up to it and instead tried leaning on his channel and "experience" I had to LOL at that one. It was quite obvious he was being paid to say good things. Nothing was ever bad or even mediocre. I get it, that's normal but he was never transparent about it.
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    Re: Call to Ban YouTubers

    Does anyone have screenshots of the toxic comments by Pan? Surely someone saved all that gold before it vanished.

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    Re: Call to Ban YouTubers

    Quote Originally Posted by WristyManchego View Post
    Does anyone have screenshots of the toxic comments by Pan? Surely someone saved all that gold before it vanished.
    I wouldn't say he made 'toxic" comments. The person who had a beef with him IMO was at-fault but Pan responded and his response is on YT.
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    Re: Call to Ban YouTubers

    Quote Originally Posted by WristyManchego View Post
    Does anyone have screenshots of the toxic comments by Pan? Surely someone saved all that gold before it vanished.
    Who would care enough about him to do that??

    And, he did engage in some pretty childish behavior when he should have just ignored or taken the high road on some posts from others.

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    Re: Call to Ban YouTubers

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    Who would care enough about him to do that??
    Did you forget for a moment that this is the internet?

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    Re: Call to Ban YouTubers

    Been watching the back and forth on youtube.....




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    Re: Call to Ban YouTubers

    Quote Originally Posted by WristyManchego View Post
    Did you forget for a moment that this is the internet?
    Oh yeah......... You got me there, Wristy! Lol
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    Re: Call to Ban YouTubers

    I fail to see why anyone would watch something or someone they don't like,,if you don't like there is an off button..... that being said most of them are tools
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    I fail to see why anyone would watch something or someone they don't like,,if you don't like there is an off button..... that being said most of them are tools
    Because change is made by having conversations.

    We can simply ignore scammers by hanging up on them or deleting their emails. But what about those who don’t know better and continue to be fleeced? Those who know and care have a moral obligation to start conversations and make noise.

    Sure this is advertising, not the prince of Nigeria stealing from your grandma, but when was the last time advertising and making money was wholesome and didn’t have negative flow-on effects?

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    Re: Call to Ban YouTubers

    My issue is that Pan and most likely others who are defending him are being paid directly while pretending to be unbiased users of multiple products. I feel the ethical thing to do is disclose that you are a professional paid advertiser.

    Turtle Wax and others can do with their advertising budget what they want. Personally, I feel what these companies have done is underhanded and unethical. But at the end of the day, what most companies care about is total number of views and bottles sold.

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