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    I don' know why people that are employed are receiving stimulus checks. Especially if they are banking it (not stimulating the economy). This should really be going to people that need it to survive due to being unemployed. I just don't agree w the way the money is distributed. I know attorneys that make close to six figures working part time and are getting money back. I don't feel this is the best use of the money. I think people that need it should get it, and not flat out giving it to everyone. If that's the case, they should give it to everyone. I'd buy a family a months worth of food if they gave me one, I wouldn't bank it unless I really needed it.
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    Re: Stimuls check

    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMys View Post
    Just another band-aid shot in the dark by a clueless, out of touch government. People in some parts of the country who are not hard-hit, and have low housing costs, will benefit from this.
    But, for people in high-risk/high-cost areas (NY e.g.), this money is about half of what some need for housing and food for 1 month.
    And let me add to this if you donít mind...thereís a lot of people that do not ďneedĒ this as much as others since theyíre still working and earning a paycheck or they have enough to get by on. Saying for a friend!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ntwillie1 View Post
    I don' know why people that are employed are receiving stimulus checks. Especially if they are banking it (not stimulating the economy). This should really be going to people that need it to survive due to being unemployed. I just don't agree w the way the money is distributed. I know attorneys that make close to six figures working part time and are getting money back. I don't feel this is the best use of the money. I think people that need it should get it, and not flat out giving it to everyone. If that's the case, they should give it to everyone. I'd buy a family a months worth of food if they gave me one, I wouldn't bank it unless I really needed it.
    There was no time to "Fine tune" the package. It had to be an "all or nothing".

    The government is not set up to give away money, so they have no clue how to do it other than yearly IRS refunds.

    They are set up to take money, and they are deadly proficient at doing that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulMys View Post
    There was no time to "Fine tune" the package. It had to be an "all or nothing".

    The government is not set up to give away money, so they have no clue how to do it other than yearly IRS refunds.

    They are set up to take money, and they are deadly proficient at doing that.
    I agree they had to get it out in a rush. But the two weeks they spent arguing about the dumb crap before finally signing it they could have spent time to make it better. This is a time to put politics aside and take care of your citizens. Not sneak in political agendas or try to win popularity contests. Just give it to the people that need it. People that claimed for unemployment got it within a week. My mom, my father-in-law, my cousins, all of them started getting unemployment benefits the week after they applied. They (meaning the gov't) could have set this up that if you are claiming unemployment, they include you in the stimulus program. I know its easier said then done, I just don't like the way they give it flat out to everyone that makes under a certain level of income. Its like giving some people a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ntwillie1 View Post
    I agree they had to get it out in a rush. But the two weeks they spent arguing about the dumb crap before finally signing it they could have spent time to make it better. This is a time to put politics aside and take care of your citizens. Not sneak in political agendas or try to win popularity contests. Just give it to the people that need it. People that claimed for unemployment got it within a week. My mom, my father-in-law, my cousins, all of them started getting unemployment benefits the week after they applied. They (meaning the gov't) could have set this up that if you are claiming unemployment, they include you in the stimulus program. I know its easier said then done, I just don't like the way they give it flat out to everyone that makes under a certain level of income. Its like giving some people a bonus.
    I agree with you 100%.

    But, in this day and age, there can never be anything truly all about the people and free of political agendas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaryn NZ View Post
    Hey guys.

    What’s this about? Anyone care to explain for me?


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    •From my layman’s understanding:
    -It’s quite similar, in nature, to the Covid-19
    economic package proffered in New Zealand.

    (And Australia, among many other hard-hit Nations)

    New Zealand launches massive spending package to combat Covid-19 | World news | The Guardian


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    Ahh, okay thank you for explaining that team.

    I guess itís kinda along the same lines as whatís happening down here. We are currently 11:30am Thursday morning - day one of our 4th week in lockdown. Only Essential businesses have been allowed to operate over the last 4 weeks & for the most part that has been Supermarkets (not green grocers or butcher shops) Pharmacies ... drug stores I think for you guys State side, Gas Stations, Medical Centres & some trades like electricians & plumbers etc are allowed to do selected essential work.

    Even Online purchases are limited to Essential Items - you cannot shop online & buy a Polisher, Lounge Suit or Clothes shopping for instance.

    There are heavy travel restrictions - freight is classed as essential, we have NO domestic (& virtually no International) air travel & youíre not allowed to be driving around without a purpose.

    We closed the shop down this time three weeks ago & apart from the odd bicycle ride around the block with the young fella I havenít left our property ....

    So .... geeze, I went on a bit of a rant there huh!

    We applied for the Government Subsidy which was made available for businesses to pay staff etc over the lockdown period. So for me, I havenít any staff so I got the $585 NZ a week for twelve weeks, paid out in total. Not much at all but something. I would rather have kept working & could certainly do so with little to no contact with anyone & kept earning without the need for the subsidy but alas, I am not allowed.

    Now, employees (I wonít be able to explain all the intricate details of part time/full time etc but bear with me) also receive the $585 NZ but their employer must top that up to at least 80% of their standard wage. Hope this made sense.

    Lots of businesses down here have been closing up, done & dusted. Just simply cannot take the hit, & it seems itís not just the smaller guys either, some bigger guys have fallen too.

    Me, well at the start I was shattered. I thought this is it, the shop is done. I donít make a huge amount of money, Iím merely a guy that details for fun & gets paid, we have never treated the shop as a proper money making business ... right or wrong, thatís how it is. As the first week of lockdown went by I started to relax a little more, thinking - itís out of my control, & if we go down, we wonít be the only ones & more importantly to me - it wasnít because I was #### at detailing.

    Are we out of the woods yet? No. We are however lucky in the fact that apart from the shop lease, insurance etc, you know, the normal bills - we donít actually owe anyone any proper money. If lockdown continues & we end up getting evicted from the shop, well I can at least detail most things from home .... although tools storage may be an issue ...

    Ange is still working (Essential) but mostly from home & that helps a bunch. Fingers crossed that next week I can open the shop again & get back into it ... wish me luck.

    Apologies for the rant, I would delete most of that & just get to the point but it took me ages so ... nope.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    ēFrom my laymanís understanding:
    -Itís quite similar, in nature, to the Covid-19
    economic package proffered in New Zealand.

    (And Australia, among many other hard-hit Nations)

    New Zealand launches massive spending package to combat Covid-19 | World news | The Guardian


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    Excellent Bob, thank you my friend.

    Hope youíre well & staying safe.

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    Re: Stimuls check

    Quote Originally Posted by ntwillie1 View Post
    This is a time to put politics aside and take care of your citizens. Not sneak in political agendas or try to win popularity contests.

    Tell that to the orange guy who demanded that his name appear on the checks despite the fact that he is not a legal signator for them.

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    Rant on, Aaryn!!

    We need a rant thread, anyway! Lol
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