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Re: The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
IMO:
•Back when Ford sold the rights to the “GT40”
trademark—along with the right to continue
building them—to a company over in England:
-that’s when the “GT” stopped being a real Ford.
•Nowadays...
-I don’t really give a whit, one way or the
other, to whom Ford has contracted to
assemble them.
-Canada; England. What’s the dif?
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Re: The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
I see your point but in today's global market many parts are out sourced, the line definitely gets muddled. AC Cobra, Pantera,Koenigsegg (early Ford modular engine, Pagani(MB motor basis),89 Zr-1 motor was designed by Lotus and built by Mercury Marine,Lotus Elise(Toyota engine) and of coarse the Supra/Z4 conundrum. I get what your saying about is it or isn't it, remember 1920's thru 1950's American brands mostly built everything in the same factories. Smelting/cast iron, glass and even tires were made under 1 roof, interesting read look up Kingsford charcoal. At least you have friends willing to debate you on this, lucky man!
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Re: The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
You know my answer...the Ford GT is ugly and deserves more than a V6. Designed by Ford, built by Multimatic, Ford by badge only
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Re: The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
Originally Posted by Klasse Act
My main sticking point is this, the Ford GT is built with Ford parts but assembled in Canada by a non-Ford company/plant called Multi-matic, a company that makes racecars and doesn't assemble any other cars for another OEM.
Thoughts???
I say it is 100% Ford. It wouldn't exist if they didn't design/engineer/create it. Even the race cars Multimatic builds (like the Mazda DPi car) are all based on other other platforms. They simply put them all together.
While not a common thing in the US, it is not at all unusual in Europe for a third part to build vehicles for an OEM. Magna Steyr is a great example. They currently build the Mercedes G-wagons, BMW 5 Series, BMW Z4, Toyota Supra, Jaguar I-Pace and E-Pace, and probably a couple more. In the past they also built cars for Chrystler, Jeep, and Opal. Just because Magna Steyr built those vehicles doesn't mean they are any less a Merc, Jag, or BMW. It simply means the OEM needed capacity and didn't want to build a new factory.
In the case of the Ford GT, it was always to be a low production, limited run of cars. It didn't make financial sense to tool up an entire plant. Also, don't forget the GT street car and the race car were developed simultaneously. Multimatic is one of the premier companies to prep race cars these days, so it made sense to do all the work in one place. Nothing against Ford at all since it their program.
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Re: The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
Body by Fisher built bodies too
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Re: The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
Originally Posted by vobro
Body by Fisher built bodies too
GM plant, Fort street, Detroit MI
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Re: The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
The coach building analogy is a good one. To be honest, these days most cars are simply a conglomeration of sub-assemblies built by a vast industry of suppliers. The folks at many of the auto plants put those components together like Lego's. The basic frame/unibody, engines, and maybe the body panels might be built/stamped by the OEM, the rest of the pieces come in from all over the world...many from vendors who supply the same type of parts to multiple OEM's. ZF and Getrag are good examples; their transmissions are used all over the world.
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Re: The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
Originally Posted by Klasse Act
Sent to Car Craft in Warren MI to "fit" the engine, that's it
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I knew it was something with Craft in it, but I do agree there wasn't much assembly there. Side note and a bit off topic, my Grandfather owned one years ago and asked my Dad if he wanted it, he said no it was too fast. Who says that!? Well last my Dad had heard, the car was restored and sitting on a showroom floor in Denver.
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The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
Production began in December 2016, with a planned production rate of one car per day at Ford's new, low-volume assembly facility at Multimatic in Markham, Ontario, Canada until October 2020
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Re: The current Ford GT...is it a "real" Ford?
Well, I didn't know Multi-matic was a Ford plant, learn something new everyday
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