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    Re: Yes, I bought a KIA

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    I can see why Dodge has moved up, they’ve built the same cars for a decade + now with minimal changes. You eventually work out all the kinks.


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    Re: Yes, I bought a KIA

    The problem like Klasse pointed out is the results show INITIAL quality. That means there aren't any noticeable defects when the vehicle leaves the dealership and, I believe, for the first 90 days of ownership. I would hope in the world of modern manufacturing no one would find defects on a brand-new car you just drove off the dealer lot...though I can't say that's true some Fords I looked at. They were a mess.

    When you look at the 2019 JD Powers Long Term Survey results at this link ( 2019 U.S. Vehicle Dependability Study (VDS) | J.D. Power ) It shows a totally different story. In the long run the Fiat-Chrystler portfolio of brands are all in the bottom quarter with Ram, Jeep, Dodge, and Fiat doing really poorly.
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    Re: Yes, I bought a KIA

    That's right butt...the C8 and its bolt issue hitting the door and the stitching on the upgraded interior are 2 examples of BAD initial quality....butt it starts at 59,995 thoughYes, I bought a KIA

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    Re: Yes, I bought a KIA

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    That's right butt...the C8 and its bolt issue hitting the door and the stitching on the upgraded interior are 2 examples of BAD initial quality....butt it starts at 59,995 thoughYes, I bought a KIA

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    From personal experience Chevy and Ford are the worst in this regard. Last year, before I bought my BMW, I looked at Mustang GT's as well. My local dealership had 2~3 GT's, one Bullitt, and a couple Eco Boosts. ALL of the GT's AND the Bullitt had terrible panel alignment. The car I drove had a visibly crooked hood and doors weren't hanging straight. The Bullitt was the worst. Not a SINGLE panel was bolted on straight and the rear quarter panel was so far off it caused the lower bumper fascia to bow and the top corner on one side to protrude outward. I was shocked at the total lack of QC and even moreso because it wasn't an isolated example. There were at least four examples sitting side-by-side at the same dealership.
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    Re: Yes, I bought a KIA

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    This went live today, a guy on the Stinger forum already ordered one. Racechip says that new plugs will NOT be necessary with their product. I will be following his thread to see how it goes.

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    Re: Yes, I bought a KIA

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    My brother, wife and I were talking cars when the Stinger came up. I’m showed him both of yours(yellow and red) but then stumbled on this post. May have to go look at one...no, not may! I will go look at one.

    It’s been a great car, love it still and get questions and looks all the time still. Don’t forget about detailrookie, he’s got the beautiful dark blue one with brown leather interior. There are changes coming for 2021

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    Mister Paul...come and join the Seoul Speed SocietyYes, I bought a KIA AWD and mods are available to make it more "special". Sounds like an active exhaust is going to be available in 2021. That new blue/brown leather combo looks amazing and I'm sure you make it look even more soYes, I bought a KIA

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    Re: Yes, I bought a KIA

    That new logo looks great, going to confuse some people because it looks like other letters at first glance.

    Red=performsnceYes, I bought a KIAYes, I bought a KIA

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