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    Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    Hey guys and gals. It’s been a while since I’ve visited the forum and im looking to replace some main items that I still use a bit of.

    Well, the main one that I will always be trying to find a replacement for is Meguiars D114.

    And, a good replacement for McKees PTR.

    I’ve have several older RWs along with ONR, and was mainly using N914. Any new or reformulated good cleaning non gloss enhancing RWs out there now that kick but at 1:128, or close, and is reasonably priced pre gallon?

    I really liked McKees Plastic Trim Restorer. It was like WETS but better and cheaper. Now it is SiO2 enhanced and I’m not sure if it is similar. I like to “layer” it and let it soak in.

    I wasn’t sure if it now had some coating like ability and would not let further coats “replenished” the rubber.

    Have they changed WET$? It is good, but it didn’t darken as much.

    P.S. Good to still see some familiar names on the boards. Love you Bob!!! Sorry, not much love for M40, never like the smell.


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    Re: Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    N-914 is still great. No longer carry by AG I believe Griots Brilliant shine rinseless wash is the only thing from AG that doesn’t leave anything behind.

    Haven’t used anything on trim except trim coatings. The darken well and last 10-24 months.


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    Re: Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantilgh View Post
    Hey guys and gals. It’s been a while
    since I’ve visited the forum and im
    looking to replace some main items
    that I still use a bit of.
    back!

    It’s always FUN when you’re around.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mantilgh View Post
    Well, the main one that I will always
    be trying to find a replacement for is
    Meguiars D114.

    I’ve have several older RWs along with
    ONR, and was mainly using N914. Any
    new or reformulated good cleaning non
    gloss enhancing RWs out there now that
    kick but at 1:128, or close, and is reason-
    ably priced pre gallon?
    McKee’s N-914 is the only RW/WW out
    there that I trust to function similarly as
    does/did Meguiar’s D114.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mantilgh View Post
    And, a good replacement for McKees PTR.

    I really liked McKees Plastic Trim Restorer.
    It was like WETS but better and cheaper.

    I like to “layer” it and let it soak in.

    Have they changed WET$?
    Don’t know if WETS formulation has changed,
    or not (its SDS is still mostly unobtainable);
    but WETS is still a favorite of many @AGO.


    •Have you tried Optimum Opti-Bond?
    -It’s often my M39/40 alternative.

    •There’s also Solution Finish—another
    Brand’s products I’ve tried and liked
    their results. They’re currently on sale.

    Solution Finish Black Plastic & Vinyl Restorer, trim restorer, black plastic restorer

    Note/Factoid:
    Once the Solution Finish has dried/cured…
    Some will top it with a “layer” of CarPro’s
    CQuartz DLux.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mantilgh View Post
    P.S. Good to still see some familiar names
    on the boards. Love you Bob!!! Sorry, not
    much love for M40, never like the smell.
    •For comparison’s sake:
    -My Wife doesn’t like ’old man smell’
    but she loves the way I still perform, as
    promulgated—even as from Day One.


    Bob
    "Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
    ~Joaquin de Setanti

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    Re: Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    HEY MANTILGH! Welcome back, we missed you.

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    Re: Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    I would have suggested CarPro Perl if you lived in the Southwest. But, some posters have said it doesn't last long in wet areas. Too bad, It's good stuff.

    I think N-914 is probably the best replacement for D114. But, having dealt with ONR for a longer period of time now, I find myself using it more often than before. I just try to avoid using it where it will mix with other products from previous applications.

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    Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    I think you guys are forgetting American Detailer Hybrid Wash Rinseless Concentrate.

    I haven’t tried it myself, but the bottle says it dilutes to handle everything from glass cleaner, claylube, rinseless, waterless, and even bucket wash without leaving anything behind. Sounds worth considering.

    American Detailers Garage Hybrid Wash Rinseless Concentrate

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    Re: Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    Welcome back!

    I’ll add another vote for trying Griots Brilliant Finish Rinseless as a substitute for N-914. The dilution ratios are a little stiffer (1/128 for rinseless, 1/6 if I remember right for other uses), but it’s cheap at like $13 for 64oz. It’s consistently cheaper on the Griots site, have AG price match. I use it as rinseless and as a glass cleaner around the house.

    Hopefully Fly07STI will chime in, I thought he recently mentioned digging an American Detailers Garage rinseless that doesn’t leave anything behind. I haven’t been following that brand’s offerings (for no other reason than brand loyalty- helps protect my pocketbook!), but I’d trust his opinion!

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    Re: Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldorado2k View Post
    I think you guys are forgetting American Detailer Hybrid Wash Rinseless Concentrate.

    I haven’t tried it myself, but the bottle says it dilutes to handle everything from glass cleaner, claylube, rinseless, waterless, and even bucket wash without leaving anything behind. Sounds worth considering.

    American Detailers Garage Hybrid Wash Rinseless Concentrate
    Wipe out has carnauba and Polydimethyl siloxane which I believe is a type of silicone(?). I’ve read it is an ingredient in some sealants.

    I personally don’t worry too much about what’s being left behind in a rinseless.

    Haven’t found any that affected CqUk3 when I had it on the Mustang.


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    Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    Thanks guys, I might check out the American Detailers. Looks like it has good ratios and I’m not terribly concerned about anything extra being left behind. Just like a good rinseless that I can use on any and everything. It’s usually my light interior detailer.

    I don’t do a lot details anymore as I starting working as a mechanic about a year ago but we occasionally get a customer that wants theirs done and occasionally get a few “special interest” vehicles that we try to take good care of.


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    Re: Hi, Back after a couple years and looking from restocking recommendations

    Quote Originally Posted by FUNX650 View Post
    back!

    It’s always FUN when you’re around.


    McKee’s N-914 is the only RW/WW out
    there that I trust to function similarly as
    does/did Meguiar’s D114.



    Don’t know if WETS formulation has changed,
    or not (its SDS is still mostly unobtainable);
    but WETS is still a favorite of many @AGO.


    •Have you tried Optimum Opti-Bond?
    -It’s often my M39/40 alternative.

    •There’s also Solution Finish—another
    Brand’s products I’ve tried and liked
    their results. They’re currently on sale.

    Solution Finish Black Plastic & Vinyl Restorer, trim restorer, black plastic restorer

    Note/Factoid:
    Once the Solution Finish has dried/cured…
    Some will top it with a “layer” of CarPro’s
    CQuartz DLux.



    •For comparison’s sake:
    -My Wife doesn’t like ’old man smell’
    but she loves the way I still perform, as
    promulgated—even as from Day One.


    Bob
    Thanks for the tip on McKees M-914.

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