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    Re: Autogeek's Show Car Garage New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Compound

    Nice Videos Mike, the difference was quite dramatic. Optimum makes some nice products.

    Since the pad is never going to be loaded down with used product, how would you tell if you are picking up too much of the contaminants off of the paint and putting more marring back into the paint? In other words, aren't you eventually creating sandpaper by not cleaning off what you are abrading with the pad?

    Using a liquid polish always forces me to clean the pad or switch it often enough that I never worry about it.
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    Re: Autogeek's Show Car Garage New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Compound

    Quote Originally Posted by mchess1 View Post

    Since the pad is never going to be loaded down with used product

    I think if you watch the video I talk about "working clean" and then I show cleaning the wool pad with a Spur and the foam pad with a Pad Conditioning Brush. Keep in mind that in a 10 minute video we have to cover a lot of information and sometimes there's not enough time to go over all the details of buffing out entire cars.

    That said, anytime you're abrading paint you're going to have removed paint build-up on the face of your buffing pad and for this reason a good "Best Practice" is to always clean your pad often and after buffing a section always wipe the residue off before applying fresh product.

    Just because I didn't include the above doesn't mean it's not a good idea, it's just a challenge to pack all the information into a video that's less than 10 minutes long.


    Great question!



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    Does AG not sell the optimum wool and foam pad specific to this system? I didn't see it on the website.
    I'm not sure of the delivery status at this time but as soon as they are available then they will be listed. You can call Customer Care at 1-800-869-3011 for more information.

    Great question!



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    Ive tried it already too and I love it. I have used it with the Flex D/A and Rotary. It works very well with both. I don't ever want to go back to tiny sections and dusting again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by integritydetail View Post
    Ive tried it already too and I love it. I have used it with the Flex D/A and Rotary. It works very well with both. I don't ever want to go back to tiny sections and dusting again.
    Sweet! I just ordered some to use with my Flex 3401!
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    Re: Autogeek's Show Car Garage New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Compound

    Only learning curve is spraying it on the pad, after you get that down (without hitting stuff behind the pad) it really feels like polishing "should" feel. I always hated doing small sections to keep the product from drying out. I swear I can do a large hood in only 3 sections with this stuff.

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    Re: Autogeek's Show Car Garage New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Compound

    Hi Mr. Phillips,
    I was reading this thread ...

    http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...me-tricks.html

    ... where you were working on this beautiful 3/4 Chevy. I am curious how much product you used to finish this truck? It doesn't seem like a single bottle of comound and polish would go very far (meaning 1-2 cars/trucks). Can you give us some input on this please?

    This product is expensive, but also time saving in more than one way.

    Thanks!

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    Re: Autogeek's Show Car Garage New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Compound

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoytman View Post
    Hi Mr. Phillips,
    I was reading this thread ...

    http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...me-tricks.html

    ... where you were working on this beautiful 3/4 Chevy. I am curious how much product you used to finish this truck? It doesn't seem like a single bottle of comound and polish would go very far (meaning 1-2 cars/trucks). Can you give us some input on this please?

    This product is expensive, but also time saving in more than one way.

    Thanks!

    Bill
    I'm not Mike, but I can give you an example for how much product I personally used. I did a Chevy Suburban in the link below with Optimum Hyper Compound and Optimum Hyper Polish and I still have more than half a bottle left and that was a pretty large vehicle.

    Suburban Paint Correction using Optimum Hyper Compound and Hyper Polish
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    Re: Autogeek's Show Car Garage New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Compound

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoytman View Post
    Hi Mr. Phillips,
    I was reading this thread ...

    http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...me-tricks.html

    ... where you were working on this beautiful 3/4 Chevy. I am curious how much product you used to finish this truck? It doesn't seem like a single bottle of compound and polish would go very far (meaning 1-2 cars/trucks). Can you give us some input on this please?

    This product is expensive, but also time saving in more than one way.

    Thanks!

    Bill

    Hi Bill,

    First, the truck was really nice, it belongs to a local member of one of the local car clubs around West Palm Beach. I only sanded and cut the hood and a portion of the front fenders to give it a uniform, show car appearance.

    The rest of the vertical sides need one of two procedures,

    1. Sanded, cut and buffed
    2. Major machine correction work

    The owner wanted to learn how to do it himself so he could take care of not only this truck but his other street rod projects. I spent some time with the owner showing him how to machine polish to remove swirls and scratches and and he purchased a PC 7424XP and all the pads and chemicals to do it himself.

    I did do a light machine polish and wax to the entire truck so it left here not only protected but with a much better and uniform appearance.

    Haven't seen him or the truck since then...

    Both the Hyper-Compound and the Hyper-Polish have a very long buffing cycle and the compound uses SMAT instead of DAT so it cuts for a long time too...




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    Re: Autogeek's Show Car Garage New Product Showcase - Optimum Hyper Compound

    Took me forever to find this thread again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mister B View Post
    I'm not Mike, but I can give you an example for how much product I personally used. I did a Chevy Suburban in the link below with Optimum Hyper Compound and Optimum Hyper Polish and I still have more than half a bottle left and that was a pretty large vehicle.

    Suburban Paint Correction using Optimum Hyper Compound and Hyper Polish
    Thank you for the information and pictures as proof! Nice work!

    I was actually condisering using it on a black trailblazer (daily driver...outside 24/7), then topping with opt 2.0. I don't think the full correction on a daily driver would be worth it, after reading some of Mike's articles, without the opt 2.0 in place as protection. Of course, after the coating wash and care would most certainly have to change.

    Actually wanting to do 2 vehicles, the trailblazer, and a Regal GS, both having been neglected for awhile now.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    Hi Bill,

    First, the truck was really nice, it belongs to a local member of one of the local car clubs around West Palm Beach. I only sanded and cut the hood and a portion of the front fenders to give it a uniform, show car appearance.

    The rest of the vertical sides need one of two procedures,

    1. Sanded, cut and buffed
    2. Major machine correction work
    The owner wanted to learn how to do it himself so he could take care of not only this truck but his other street rod projects. I spent some time with the owner showing him how to machine polish to remove swirls and scratches and and he purchased a PC 7424XP and all the pads and chemicals to do it himself.

    I did do a light machine polish and wax to the entire truck so it left here not only protected but with a much better and uniform appearance.

    Haven't seen him or the truck since then...

    Both the Hyper-Compound and the Hyper-Polish have a very long buffing cycle and the compound uses SMAT instead of DAT so it cuts for a long time too...



    Thanks for the reply Mr. Phillips.

    I know there were several in the thread who had questions about using a DA with this new technology compound. Since you mentioned the owner purchasing a DA, can I assume a DA was used some with the optimum spray products?

    That's some of the most beautiful paint I've ever seen. Sort of odd you haven't seen the fella since huh?

    Bill

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