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    Re: Jeweling Wax - Definition

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    Regardless of whether that product fits into it, you've now created the Jeweling Wax category with its first product (McKee's 37 Jeweling Wax), and along with it, new nomenclature, as you noted.

    I think it's a product and a category the detailing industry has needed ever since clearcoats were introduced starting in the 1980's but the industry just didn't know it needed it. Part of the evolution of car detailing.



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    Re: Jeweling Wax - Definition

    Is CarPro Essence a "Jeweling Coating"?

    Is Chemical Guys EZ-Glaze a "Jeweling Glaze"?

    Is Meguiar's White Wax a "Jeweling Wax"?


    Are all of the above actually "Jeweling Coatings", because they all contain abrasives that would be used solo for "Jeweling" and they leave a coating of protection behind?


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    Re: Jeweling Wax - Definition

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    Is CarPro Essence a "Jeweling Coating"?

    Is Chemical Guys EZ-Glaze a "Jeweling Glaze"?

    Is Meguiar's White Wax a "Jeweling Wax"?

    Are all of the above actually "Jeweling Coatings", because they all contain abrasives that would be used solo for "Jeweling" and they leave a coating of protection behind?

    Great questions...

    Who has an opinion?



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    Re: Jeweling Wax - Definition

    Jeweling wax seems like an AIO with a fancy name, cleans,polishes and waxes just like Meguiars Cleaner waxes of different sorts.

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    Re: Jeweling Wax - Definition

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike.Phillips@Autogeek View Post
    Great questions...

    Who has an opinion?


    Hmm, having just used Essence, it is in a product category of its own. Not only does it contain abrasives, but it also contains semi permanent fillers as well as protection primed for topped with a coating. But does it fit in that category?

    I wouldnt consider Meguiars white wax a jeweling wax due to who its marketed to and what its designed to do. Its not a wax designed to be used as part of a multistep correction process. Its designed to give the average guy as nice of a finish on a light colored car as he can get by hand.

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    Jeweling Wax - Definition

    Until somebody does side by side comparisons with the popular AIO products along side this jeweling wax all the discussion in the world doesn't mean much. The proof is in the pudding under the exact conditions using same pads, etc. I can think of only one outfit that has the resources and people to do this.
    In my day we didn't have the Internet, iPods,iPads, or smart phones....but we had some really bad-azz cars.

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    Re: Jeweling Wax - Definition

    Quote Originally Posted by silverfox View Post
    Until somebody does side by side comparisons with the popular AIO products along side this jeweling wax all the discussion in the world doesn't mean much. The proof is in the pudding under the exact conditions using same pads, etc. I can think of only one outfit that has the resources and people to do this.
    That's the thing your comparing it to CUTTING all in ones, like HD speed, griots finishing sealant , and menzerna 3 in 1.

    This is a all in one, but a different kind, it has ULTRA FINE ABRASIVES.

    think of it like a menzerna sf3800 (formerly sf4500) with a Wax protection behind.

    So what is so special about that ?

    Think about it, we use a

    1.Compound
    2. Polish
    3. Wax

    You can do a optional jeweling step but that takes more time.

    With the "jeweling wax"

    Your using that ultra fine Polish and ultra soft pad that you would usually skip, and now your polishing and protecting to a high shine.

    Instead of just waxing with a wax pad.

    Now is that to say this can't fix paint by its self no. not at all.

    But however I think the "jeweling wax" is pretty frickin awesome for our industry.

    Its like doing 4 steps
    1. compound
    2. polish
    3. ultra fine polish
    4. wax

    But now you do it in 3!

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    Re: Jeweling Wax - Definition

    sounds to me that perhaps its a beefed up version of the old xmt finishing glaze

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    Quote Originally Posted by NextLevelDtail View Post

    Its like doing 4 steps
    1. compound
    2. polish
    3. ultra fine polish
    4. wax

    But now you do it in 3!

    I thought we were finally getting away from 3 step paint corrections.

    With the advances in pad and abrasive technologies, I have been unable to see any improvement by adding an additional "Jeweling" step.


    The 1st time I "Jeweled"; I thought I saw improvement with a Black LC pad and Menz 3500...until I did an Eraser wipe.


    The only additional step, I have actually seen a difference with is EZ-Glaze, prior to application of Wolfgang Sealant.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaretr1 View Post
    I wouldnt consider Meguiars white wax a jeweling wax due to who its marketed to and what its designed to do. Its not a wax designed to be used as part of a multistep correction process. Its designed to give the average guy as nice of a finish on a light colored car as he can get by hand.
    What does Marketing have to do with what a product actually does or was designed to do?


    We have played around with both Megs Black Wax and White Wax on black demo hoods at Meguiar's TNOG events, with really nice results.


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