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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly View Post
    As for the NXT cleaner debate, try using it on a neglected surface and then you tell me how much cleaning ability it has. I never understood why some folks think it has these all powerful cleaners in it.
    I thought I read that NXT's formulation changed; the current 2.0 formulation does not have cleaners in it, while the previous one did.

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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    Quote Originally Posted by paul_g View Post

    Would Pinnacle Liquid Souvern be considered a Finishing Wax?

    Yes.

    Any wax or sealant that is NON-cleaning is a finishing wax or a finishing sealant.

    If a wax or sealant contains any type of mechanical abrasives or any type of chemical cleaning agents including solvents that are used in the formula to clean the paint, (not just act as a carrying agent for the other ingredients or used to emulsify or keep the formula or ingredients in the formula in an emulsion), than it is a cleaner/wax or a cleaner/sealant.


    Good question!



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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    I thought Collinite was termed a Hybrid with Carnuba and Polymers ?

    Dave

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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    Quote Originally Posted by davidc View Post

    I thought Collinite was termed a Hybrid with Carnauba and Polymers ?

    Dave

    If it's for the most part considered a "Carnauba Wax" then it kind of goes into the Carnauba wax group.

    Heck everything has polymers in it. Take you thumb and index finger and pinch the skin on your arm. You're pinching polymers.

    Carnauba is a polymer.

    A polymer or polymers are just a repeating set of monomers.

    I can get just as deep as anyone but sometime it becomes a rabbit hole with no end.



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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    I'm still trying to find the car in that picture.


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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    Thanks Mike. I have 476 on one vehicle and 885 on another. Going to see how it holds up to the Arizona Sun and heat.

    Dave

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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    Hi Mike, any advice on what's best to use after applying Wolfgang's DGPS 3.0?

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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    Quote Originally Posted by kst View Post

    Hi Mike, any advice on what's best to use after applying Wolfgang's DGPS 3.0?

    I personally don't top sealants with waxes any more. Don't have nothing against the idea or practice I just would rather do a good job of applying the chosen LSP and then down the road, when needed, re-apply the chosen LSP or do a mini detailing session that would include,

    1. Wash
    2. Light polish
    3. Re-apply the chosen LSP

    If you want to top a synthetic paint sealant with a Carnauba wax then you want to use a non-cleaning wax.

    Do you have any waxes in your arsenal? If so, what do you have?


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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    I bought from AG a variety of products that includes Pinnacle BL paint sealant, Pinnacle BL Synergy, Pinnacle souveran paste wax, WG Fusion, WG DGPS & Black fire montan wax. I'd like to find the best combo for my 2 black sedans here in our tropical country Philippines...

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    Re: Frosting on the cake

    Quote Originally Posted by kst View Post

    I bought from AG a variety of products that includes Pinnacle BL paint sealant, Pinnacle BL Synergy, Pinnacle souveran paste wax, WG Fusion, WG DGPS & Black fire montan wax. I'd like to find the best combo for my 2 black sedans here in our tropical country Philippines...

    Did you ever come to a conclusion?



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