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    Re: Supa BEAST backing plate swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Oldz View Post
    Mike or anyone who can verify for sure,

    1 Do the backing plates come with the Allen style bolts? The old plate on my finisher has torx. I’d prefer the Allen style.(the CBeast comes with the updated BP and Allen bolts) I want to update my corded finisher.

    2 Are both size backing plates in stock at AG the newer updated versions with the locking tabs?


    Thank you

    Jim

    I'll be into the office after lunch to shoot the Live Broadcast video with Yancy and can check.



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    Re: Supa BEAST backing plate swap

    Bumpity bump!
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    Re: Supa BEAST backing plate swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Oldz View Post
    Bumpity bump!

    Sorry, I forgot to walk out and look at the shelves....


    BUT - See what Sizzle Chet posted here just yesterday, April 14th, 2020

    3401 replacement backing plate - in stock soon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzle Chest View Post

    Received my plates today! Yeah!


    Or call Customer Care, I'm sure they can find the answer.

    1-800-869-3011



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    Re: Supa BEAST backing plate swap



    From time to time I see someone ask,

    1: Does the felt ring on the Supa BEAST need to be lubricated?

    2: Will the BEAST backing plate fit on the Supa BEAST or the CBEAST?

    The answer is no to both questions. The Supa BEAST and the CBEAST use a totally different design that enables the tool to run,

    Cooler
    Smoother
    Quieter
    And weigh less


    See my article from 2011 on this topic as you can see by the pictures, the innards in the BEAST look nothing like the innards of the Supa BEAST or the CBEAST.


    Lubricating the Felt Ring on the Flex 3401








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    Re: Supa BEAST backing plate swap

    I wish I had gotten one of these instead of my G9, way outta my price range though (literally 3x the price of a G9 up here )
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    Re: Supa BEAST backing plate swap

    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus View Post

    I wish I had gotten one of these instead of my G9, way outta my price range though

    (literally 3x the price of a G9 up here )



    Ah yes....

    Canada....



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    Re: Supa BEAST and CBEAST Backing Plate Swap by Mike Phillips





    Here's an updated article with my personal pad recommendations for any of the BEAST family of tools with the larger backing plate.


    Mike Phillips recommended foam pads for the FLEX Family of BEAST 8mm Gear-Driven Orbital Polishers


    Foam pad options...





    Microfiber pad options...





    More info in the actual article here,


    Mike Phillips recommended foam pads for the FLEX Family of BEAST 8mm Gear-Driven Orbital Polishers





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    Re: Supa BEAST and CBEAST Backing Plate Swap by Mike Phillips

    Out of these pads, do you prefer one or the other cutting, polishing, or finishing pad over the other?

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    Re: Supa BEAST and CBEAST Backing Plate Swap by Mike Phillips

    Quote Originally Posted by Me Time View Post

    Out of these pads, do you prefer one or the other cutting, polishing, or finishing pad over the other?

    Yes. Whenever I can use foam and it makes sense, I prefer foam. Sometimes fiber makes more sense for speed and efficiency because fibers are a form of abrasive.

    Fiber pads are like a coin. A coin has two sides.


    1: One side of the Fiber Coin is it cuts faster because fibers are a form of abrasive.

    2: The other side of the Fiber Coin is because fibers are a form of abrasive - they can leave a CUT in the paint when you've finished buffing. When using any brand or type of orbital polisher this is called micro-marring. When using a rotary polisher this is called holograms.


    Here's something I wrote years ago,


    Generally speaking, a foam pad will finish out nicer more consistently over a wide spectrum of paint systems -Mike Phillips


    So if I can cut with a foam pad and get the defect removal results I'm looking for on any given project I'll choose foam. Sometimes I can finish with this same foam pad and sometimes I have to re-polish, depends on the paint. But if I end up having to do a 2-step process, by starting with foam the polishing will be faster and easier as it won't have the depth of cut that a fiber pad will leave if a fiber pad is used first.

    The above is generalities as paint hardness and/or paint softness is the huge unknown variable.

    Or as Jason Rose likes to say,

    Topcoat hardness is the unknown variable.


    Hope that helps...



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