The #7 Rub Down Technique by Mike Phillips

[Mad Wax]

Is it wise to polish after using #7? If so, what would be a good pad to use with the pc7424xp?

[Mike Phillips]

Is it wise to polish after using #7?

Sure if you want to remove paint defects.

I'd recommend reading my original article on how to restore antique single stage paint. Look for the paragraph ar the beginning that has the word important in red text.

If so, what would be a good pad to use with the pc7424xp?

Foam cutting or foam polishing pad.


Question: What are you working on?

[Mad Wax]

Sure if you want to remove paint defects.

I'd recommend reading my original article on how to restore antique single stage paint. Look for the paragraph ar the beginning that has the word important in red text.




Foam cutting or foam polishing pad.


Question: What are you working on?

Thanks Mike for that info...working on a 2001 Tundra with the white single stage.

[Dereksdtail]

After a double #7 rub down and polish on a LTD, huge improvement but the hood was in baddd shape

[mcate]

Just curious, what about glazes other than #7? I've got Poorboy's Black Hole & White Diamond, & CG EZ Creme. Is it reasonable to expect similar results with other glazes?

[Mike Phillips]

Thanks Mike for that info...

working on a 2001 Tundra with the white single stage.

15 year old single stage paint. Some would consider this antique.


If it were me, I'd probably just cut this truck with a compound. If you want, apply the #7 AFTER all the machine polishing work and BEFORE sealing the paint assuming you're using either a wax or a paint sealant. If you're going to use a paint coating, then you can't use anything with oils.


Looking forward to the before and after pictures.

[Mad Wax]

15 year old single stage paint. Some would consider this antique.


If it were me, I'd probably just cut this truck with a compound. If you want, apply the #7 AFTER all the machine polishing work and BEFORE sealing the paint assuming you're using either a wax or a paint sealant. If you're going to use a paint coating, then you can't use anything with oils.


Looking forward to the before and after pictures.

Thanks again Mike for the advice...and I will do my best on the pics!

[AC in OC]

Just curious, what about glazes other than #7? I've got Poorboy's Black Hole & White Diamond, & CG EZ Creme. Is it reasonable to expect similar results with other glazes?

I've never tried those glazes on single stage paints, but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say no, they won't do the job like #7 will. They are designed for modern paint with clearcoat, while #7 has been around forever and has special ingredients made for these older, single stage paints.

[fightnews]

On the topic of applying #7 to modern clearcoat paints...

First it certainly won't hurt anything.

Second, how helpful it is depends on the age and condition of the clearcoat. The older the clearcoat and the worse condition the more it will help.

If a car is brand new and no hack detailer has scoured and opened up the top surface with zillions of scratches, then a new clearcoat finish is very impermeable. That means it's solid and oils will not penetrate into it they will just sit on the surface. So while applying #7 won't hurt anything it probably won't do much.

As paint ages it opens up. Do search on the word interstices. As a clearcoat ages and become more open then the application and working in of a coat of the #7 can help to restore clarity and workability of the paint.


Hope that helps...

hi mike, i applied the #7 with my hand like you said but now it won't come off, ive been washing it for an hour and a 1\2, do u have to use a special soap or something?

[Knozzmoeking]

hi mike, i applied the #7 with my hand like you said but now it won't come off, ive been washing it for an hour and a 1\2, do u have to use a special soap or something?

I'm not Mike but from personal experience the #7 should be removed with clean terry cloth towels before you do anything else. When I've run across areas that were hard to remove either due to sun or wind, I've simply rewet that area with some additional #7 and then gone back to the clean terry cloth for removal. Hope that helps. In any case, the #7 should be removed before any attempts at washing. All IMO.