autogeekonline car wax, car care and auto detailing forum Autogeek on TV
car wax, car care and auto detailing forumAutogeekonline autogeekonline car wax, car care and auto detailing forum HomeForumBlogAutogeek.net StoreDetailing Classes with Mike PhillipsGalleryDetailing How To's
 
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 12
  1. #1
    Super Member prin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Posts
    264
    Post Thanks / Like

    Matte White wrap

    So, I had the opportunity to detail an Audi S6 with a white vinyl wrap. The car hadn't been washed in months. After the washing, the wrap was very splotchy and brown looking. I used an APC to clean it, but I don't think that I was able to get it 100%. What do you guys recommend for something like this? Also, it had a text feel to it.

  2. #2
    Super Member TMQ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Germantown, Md
    Posts
    2,243
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Matte White wrap

    Mr Tommy's
    Wash, Buff, Wax
    Website: mrtommyshine.com

  3. #3
    Super Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Fayetteville, GA
    Posts
    414
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Matte White wrap

    I've done matte paint (frozen paint as BMW calls it) and used McKees Matte cleaner and protecter which worked well. Matte finishes can't have any gloss enhancement products introduced to it which includes wash soaps with wax, spray waxes, quick detailers, etc. Those finishes also can't be polished nor buffed. I also purchased Flitz matte cleaner but have not used it yet. I've advised owners of matte finished cars and some had no knowledge about the care of that paint. That car might have been exposed to glossing agents prior (perhaps from car wash tunnel, improper matte care, etc). Sounds like the APC had a positive affect.

  4. #4
    Super Member prin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Posts
    264
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Matte White wrap

    Here’s a pic of the finished car. But to me, it still has a long way to go...




    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

  5. #5
    Super Member TMQ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2015
    Location
    Germantown, Md
    Posts
    2,243
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Matte White wrap

    Best thing is to find out who is the manufacturer of the wrap and their recommended cleaning procedures.

    Tom
    Mr Tommy's
    Wash, Buff, Wax
    Website: mrtommyshine.com

  6. #6
    Super Member
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    South Jersey
    Posts
    625
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Matte White wrap

    Tom,

    Chances are it's 3M. I would ask the client when they had the wrap done. It's been a good 7+ years since I was dealing with production and installs but at the time 3M had two warranties a 3 year and 7 year I believe. The other was how it was produced. If it was printed and had a matte lam put over the top or just a clear matte wrap. I would check some of the edges if you can find them. gas cap door, under the top of the wheel wells, lower parts of the car, inside the bottom of the doors. If you find a edge hanging of the material and it feels brittle it's pretty much done and there is not much you can do. My other question is where exactly are the browning marks. The material has to be heated during install to make the contours and edges and the installer could have cooked the lam which would be noticeable on white. 3M at the time just said wash the car and don't do anything else.
    inDetail, "It's all in the details."

  7. Thanks TMQ thanked for this post
  8. #7
    Super Member FUNX650's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Ohio, USA
    Posts
    21,057
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Matte White wrap

    Quote Originally Posted by inDetail View Post
    Chances are it's 3M.

    It's been a good 7+ years since I was
    dealing with production and installs

    3M at the time just said wash the
    car and don't do anything else
    .
    3M has changed-up a few things:
    They now have a product that can
    even be used on matte vinyl wraps.



    A few other matte choices:
    https://autogeek.commerce-search.net...Matte+produvts


    Bob
    "Be wary of the man who urges an action in which he himself incurs no risk."
    ~Joaquin de Setanti

  9. #8
    Super Member prin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Posts
    264
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Matte White wrap

    Im going to bump this one! I have cleaned this car several times. Nothing is helping. Especially the rear where a lot of road grime collects. I have tried the Dr. Beasley's and it didn't clean it at all. What about paint thinner??

  10. #9
    Mike Phillips
    Guest

    Re: Matte White wrap

    Quote Originally Posted by prin View Post

    Im going to bump this one! I have cleaned this car several times. Nothing is helping.

    Especially the rear where a lot of road grime collects. I have tried the Dr. Beasley's and it didn't clean it at all.

    And this is the problem with matte vinyl wraps. No one can "work" on them. You can "wipe" on them you just can't "work" on them. People that buy cars with these matte wraps or pay to have them put on get the problem they want. I've never figured out why someone would want to make a car look ghetto in the first place.

    The primary problem with staining is it gets INTO the matte surface or IMPACTS onto the matte surface and then topically stains the surface that it's for the most part impossible to undo the staining.

    Could be as simple as telling potential customers up front that there's really not much that can be done for "problems" with matte surfaces outside of a normal wash and let them take their lumps.


    Quote Originally Posted by prin View Post

    What about paint thinner??
    You could test in an inconspicuous area and see what happens. Maybe a Magic Eraser?



  11. Likes DetailedByPrecision, custmsprty liked this post
  12. #10
    Super Member prin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Huntsville, AL
    Posts
    264
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: Matte White wrap

    Thanks so Much Mike. The lady told me last night that she forgot to mention that the wrap has a ceramic coating on it. I think that the coating is going bad or something. But how do I strip it????

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Protection for matte finish paint (not wrap)
    By Delsil in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 07-24-2019, 08:45 AM
  2. Matte and reflective vinyl wrap combo care CG Jetseal?
    By jaxtalonturbo in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-22-2017, 08:55 PM
  3. Washing and Protecting Textured Matte Wrap
    By osiapstndp in forum Auto Detailing 101
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-06-2016, 11:22 AM
  4. Replies: 13
    Last Post: 05-05-2012, 08:09 AM
  5. Superior Auto Design: E46 325i 3m Matte Wrap (South Florida)
    By sullysdetailing in forum Show N' Shine
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 02-09-2012, 09:22 PM

Members who have read this thread: 0

There are no members to list at the moment.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

» March 2024

S M T W T F S
2526272829 1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30
31 123456