Astro nailed it.
Are we paying for science or hype?
We all would gladly pay for science from a no name company. Word of mouth is the best advertising.
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Astro nailed it.
Are we paying for science or hype?
We all would gladly pay for science from a no name company. Word of mouth is the best advertising.
Testable Repeatable Results are the hallmark of science. These products offer results which meet these criteria on a consistent basis.
I could care less if the products are made with real bits of baby jesus's gold fleece diaper if they perform poorly, even if they are cheap.
I think we're all very comfortable paying the price we do for the results we're getting else we wouldn't be here.
IMO if you're on AG the battles mostly won. Products that don't meet the standards aren't here. Stay in your budget and detail on.
well now we're into the realms of what most would class as paint coatings, which are a different kettle of fish again. many of these are very fussy and will require chemically clean paint to bond to properly. that said you can apply virtually any product you wish over any other product. it might not take very well and you may well have product interference issues, but theres nothing stopping you from doing it if you really want to. you'll note that with the exception of the Optimum opticoat pro, which is chemically structured to require the use of a primer, the others all use the word 'can'. Its worth bearing in mind that saying you 'can' do something isn't quite the same as saying 'this is how to get the most out of your product'. you 'can' probably put a nano sealant over wax if you so wish, it just tends to work better the other way around. there are very fews do's and don'ts when it comes to lsp's, theres really only 'not so good, good and better', because at the end of the day, what you're applying will protect the paint for a period of time, however you apply it. i hope that helps answer your question.
Cross-linking - another one to confuse. It is common practice to use a blend of cross linking and non cross linking polymers!
You make two points which are the crux of all of this. There ARE companies who are spending $0.50 a gallon and selling it out at $20 for a small bottle. How do you figure identify those products/brands? The second is who you trust - marketing goes a lot further than some fancy words in the product literature. There are any number of stories in the UK of companies paying well known detailers to tell people that they use their products. This is absolutely no guarantee of quality and (if the stories are to be believe) does not even mean those big name detailers will actually use the products at all! So you really must beware who you trust.
I don't know who the following will be received but the truth is that there are very rarely enormous differences between two products of a similar type, from different companies. Ok, it is a non acid wheel cleaner. It is alkaline but non-caustic. Chances are, it may be slightly better or not quite as good as a comparison from someone else, but it is just not going to be night and day. To me, this is the first 'tell' that you are being sold a lemon - if a company insists on telling you that every product, even the mundane, is better than anything else out there, they are almost certainly lying. Likewise, if an online review tells you the same, either the reviewer is an idiot or has some other reason to come to the conclusion they did.
Thank you but just to note...
I NEVER wanted to write the article on how to correctly dilute IPA to make it safe for the average person to use to chemically strip paint.
The PROBLEM
The problem was we had some forum bullies that not only talked to people including me in a demeaning manner but they were continually telling everyone they needed to use IPA to strip their car's paint. BUT - they NEVER gave any actual and helpful information on exactly how to do this, just threw out there what I call one-liners.
I asked for someone else to write the article and waited for ONE YEAR - and when no one else would take up the challenge, not even the dude always spewing out bad information, I finally wrote the article. I started by first doing research instead of just regurgitating what was written all over the blogosphere.
That article led to this article and this is when I shared that wiping with SOLVENTS (which is what chemical stripping products are), tends to leave maring in your car's paint.
Marring is the kind, gentle word for scratching.
Anyway, everyone can find their own way to get the perfect shine.
Me? I just try to keep things real-world.
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Cross posted to the below thread in post #47
Reccomend a Wax over Sealant for me. Or Not?
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Referenced here,
Slick polymer and bonding
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This article referenced here,
Pictures: RUPES Detailing Class at Autogeek - 1948 Chevy Fleetmaster Streetrod
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