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    Re: A bit disappointed...

    I would read all you can about technique with a tall stroke machine. It sounds like that may be an issue since it’s your first time using it. Let up a little and let the machine do the work.

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    Re: A bit disappointed...

    Also, the washers that come with the machine I would consider an enhancement versus a modification as Rupes likes to call the washer mod on their machine.

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    Re: A bit disappointed...

    Going from a PC7424 XP to any long throw comes with a learning curve. I liken it to when you were a kid and the training wheels came off... You didn't give up bike riding because you crashed a few times right?

    Going to the long throw and flat pads can be a big jump and it will take some time getting used to and knowing where the stall points are. Eventually you'll start to get the hang of it. For me it was a learning curve going to the G15, once I got that nailed down I got the Rupes MKII and read Mike's book covering that. That was even more of a learning curve, and for a while I never used it and only stuck with the G15. I realized it was time to overcome that fear and start forcing myself to use it. I eventually didn't let it get the better of me, now I love it..

    They all have pluses and minuses, and silly quirks and features. Once you figure out the quirks, you have an "ah ha!" moment.

    Just like others have said, lube the sides of the mount, install the supplied washers... they can only go in one way. Also, GG sells spacers that can go between the pad and backing plate to help with curved areas. They DON'T like heat build up, but may be something decent to try for a few section passes until you get the hang of it.

    The G15 is a great machine, as they all are, but it is one of the more user friendly long throws say vs. the Rupes which comes with mandatory reading (a book) from Mike.

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    Thank you to all for the comments and recommendations. I will install a washer or two if needed and give it a try. Unfortunately, it will be a week or so before I get a chance to test it out. Going to Plymouth, MI. for a sales meeting in a couple days. Haven't found the article Mike mentioned but did find the one below. Not sure if the link below will work but it is from 6-15-2015 and Mike gives an outstanding explanation of the topic with pictures.

    http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...ew-boss-paint-

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    Re: A bit disappointed...

    in addition.. there's also the innerflex pad and at the 6:15 mark, Jeff explains what it is used for...

    Griots Garage BOSS 5.5 Inch Innerflex Pad


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    Re: A bit disappointed...

    Another thing you could try is using a slightly thicker pad with it, like a buff and shine URO-tec (LOVE these pads). I use them on my XFE-7-150 with 5" BP frequently.

    My experience is contrary to what a lot of people recommend (thinner pads with long throws). My personal experience is that the tool contours better and maintains pad rotation more in curved areas with a slightly thicker pad, i.e. Rupes pads. Everything really comes down to user preference, however.

    I also frequent the Rupes 21mk2 with a 5" BP and washer mod. It is noticeably more powerful than my XFE7.
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    Re: A bit disappointed...

    Quote Originally Posted by VISITOR View Post
    in addition.. there's also the innerflex pad and at the 6:15 mark, Jeff explains what it is used for...

    Griots Garage BOSS 5.5 Inch Innerflex Pad

    I've seen this video. The Innerflex pad came with kit purchased. Without the washer, the pad is so tight against the shroud you almost can't turn the pad with your hand. I would assume this would still happen with the Innerflex pad.

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    Re: A bit disappointed...

    Quote Originally Posted by B5visser View Post
    Another thing you could try is using a slightly thicker pad with it, like a buff and shine URO-tec (LOVE these pads). I use them on my XFE-7-150 with 5" BP frequently.

    My experience is contrary to what a lot of people recommend (thinner pads with long throws). My personal experience is that the tool contours better and maintains pad rotation more in curved areas with a slightly thicker pad, i.e. Rupes pads. Everything really comes down to user preference, however.

    I also frequent the Rupes 21mk2 with a 5" BP and washer mod. It is noticeably more powerful than my XFE7.
    Thicker pads may be an option but I've already purchased some extra Griots pads. The only way this polisher is going to work is with a washer, it may need two washers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnym View Post
    Thicker pads may be an option but I've already purchased some extra Griots pads. The only way this polisher is going to work is with a washer, it may need two washers.
    The Griot's pads are the way to go, I've used numerous others wth success but for over all balance, correction, etc they are the best with the "BOSS System". IMHO.
    I use them on my Rupes machines now too LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donnym View Post
    I've seen this video. The Innerflex pad came with kit purchased. Without the washer, the pad is so tight against the shroud you almost can't turn the pad with your hand. I would assume this would still happen with the Innerflex pad.
    as mentioned, try the washer mod and (if needed) use the innerflex pad to help the pad contour to the curved panels...

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