What Pad to Use on New Black Challenger

**Tico** · 05-09-2016, 06:02 PM

Hi all. I recently purchased a 2016 Challenger (Pitch Black). I know, I know, I should have bought white. You'd think I would have learned my lesson coming from a black Grand Cherokee SRT. Anyhow, it has some minor swirls due to the dealer having put it through their wash. I have always done my own detailing (by hand) but last week I ordered a Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital (HD version) with a 5" backing plate and Lake Country CCS 5-1/2" pads.

For the last fourteen or fifteen years I've been using Klasse AIO and Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze - but now with this new orbital am wanting to try something new. Actually I'm tired of doing it by hand and busting my a$$ with the Klasse. So I just ordered a bottle of 3D HD Speed. I am a little intimidated about learning to use an orbital on a brand new black car - maybe I should try on my son's car first (lol). Anyhow, do you think the orange pad would be too aggressive or should I go with the white pad?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

**custmsprty** · 05-09-2016, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Tico

Hi all. I recently purchased a 2016 Challenger (Pitch Black). I know, I know, I should have bought white. You'd think I would have learned my lesson coming from a black Grand Cherokee SRT. Anyhow, it has some minor swirls due to the dealer having put it through their wash. I have always done my own detailing (by hand) but last week I ordered a Griot's Garage 6" Random Orbital (HD version) with a 5" backing plate and Lake Country CCS 5-1/2" pads.

For the last fourteen or fifteen years I've been using Klasse AIO and Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze - but now with this new orbital am wanting to try something new. Actually I'm tired of doing it by hand and busting my a$$ with the Klasse. So I just ordered a bottle of 3D HD Speed. I am a little intimidated about learning to use an orbital on a brand new black car - maybe I should try on my son's car first (lol). Anyhow, do you think the orange pad would be too aggressive or should I go with the white pad?

Thanks in advance for your advice.

Orange is perfect and what I pretty much use exclusively with Speed. You get excellent correction and excellent finish. Do the entire vehicle and then wipe the Speed off. I do about 5-6 section passes at a nice medium to slow speed arm speed 2 x 2 , maybe 3 x 3 area at a time. I generally run at 5-6 on the da and lighten up on my last pass to get a better finish. I always prefer to top with Poxy as it adds depth and durability and when machine applied it adds very little additional time yet the benefits are well worth it.

**ronkh57** · 05-09-2016, 06:19 PM

I'll find out what this guy used, so you know what NOT to use...........

**Tico** · 05-09-2016, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by custmsprty

Orange is perfect and what I pretty much use exclusively with Speed. You get excellent correction and excellent finish. Do the entire vehicle and then wipe the Speed off. I do about 5-6 section passes at a nice medium to slow speed arm speed 2 x 2 , maybe 3 x 3 area at a time. I generally run at 5-6 on the da and lighten up on my last pass to get a better finish. I always prefer to top with Poxy as it adds depth and durability and when machine applied it adds very little additional time yet the benefits are well worth it.

So don't wipe down after each panel - complete the whole car before wiping down. Won't it be tougher to remove the longer I wait?

Originally Posted by ronkh57

I'll find out what this guy used, so you know what NOT to use...........

OMG that's my exact car except that mine looks incredible compared to that one - plus the driver in mine looks better too (lol).

**ronkh57** · 05-09-2016, 06:42 PM

It was much worse in person. Both sides. You could see a circle where he stopped the buffer......

**custmsprty** · 05-09-2016, 06:44 PM

[QUOTE=Tico;1381072]So don't wipe down after each panel - complete the whole car before wiping down. Won't it be tougher to remove the longer I wait?

That's the beauty of Speed and their Polishes too. Ease of removal. You want to leave the Speed on to set up so that it leaves the protection of the Poxy blend after you wipe it off.

**custmsprty** · 05-09-2016, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by ronkh57

I'll find out what this guy used, so you know what NOT to use...........

He brought that to a car gathering?

**ronkh57** · 05-09-2016, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by custmsprty

He brought that to a car gathering?

yep

**Tico** · 05-09-2016, 07:35 PM

To be honest seeing that picture has got me more concerned about learning to use an orbital on a black car. I am hoping that guy was just a moron or had a VERY bad detailer. Where did you take that picture? You should have handed him your detailer card.

**custmsprty** · 05-09-2016, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by Tico

To be honest seeing that picture has got me more concerned about learning to use an orbital on a black car. I am hoping that guy was just a moron or had a VERY bad detailer. Where did you take that picture? You should have handed him your detailer card.

Definitely a moron and that's not from a DA. On you're worst day you couldn't do that with a DA Polisher.