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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boejoula View Post
    Might be off topic a little bit can I ask; how is the flex 3401 with a LC puprle hybrid wool pad at getting out wets sanding marks? Or should this always be done with a rotary?
    I think Richy uses a tuff buff black wool pad on this 3401 with great success. For serious correction with the flex I use surbuf pads, but they are kinda antiquated with the advent of MF pads...I can't bring myself to get rid of them and they work a bit better for me on the flex than MF pads.

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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7PaintGuns View Post
    I love the superfina but I feel like its does a lot of filling and washes off fairly quickly. I was just reading about the Menzerna 3000 and 4000 and reviewing the Menzerna/LC pad chart and noticed it didn't have the 3500 or 3800 which I thought was odd. I plan on doing a 3M VS Menzerna side by side total step comparison and a rotary vs flex comparison as well. Now I just need to find Menzerna equivalent products that I can 3 step. Comparison will be done on fresh paint.

    EDIT: Oh great, I see Menzerna has changed the numbers... I need a break!
    3500=old sf 4000
    3800= old sf 4500

    For a fair comparison (that is 3M tech to Menz's old tech)
    Perfect-It 1=PG1000
    Perfect-It 2=IP2000
    Perfect-it 3=FF3000 or SF4500/3800

    For a not-so-fair comparison (that is 3M tech to Menz's current tech)
    Perfect-It 1=FG400 or SC300
    Perfect-It 2=PF2500 or
    Perfect-it 3=SF4000/3500 or SF4500/3800

    I'd go with menzerna's current tech, they are more expensive but they are amazing performers. In most cases, you could go straight from FG400 to SF4000, no need to make it a 3 step process like you do with 3M.

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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    To answer the OP, these are the compounds I picked up to use with the flex and the lake county hybrid pads. From what I hear, this will cover almost anything you need to do. Purple, orange, white, and black pads.

    Compound
    Meguiars ultra cut 105
    Menzerma Heavy cut 400

    Polish
    Menzerna medium cut polish 2500
    Menzerna super finish 3500

    I'll wait for more to chime in about the wet sanding part.

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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Audios S6 View Post
    3500=old sf 4000
    3800= old sf 4500

    For a fair comparison (that is 3M tech to Menz's old tech)
    Perfect-It 1=PG1000
    Perfect-It 2=IP2000
    Perfect-it 3=FF3000 or SF4500/3800

    For a not-so-fair comparison (that is 3M tech to Menz's current tech)
    Perfect-It 1=FG400 or SC300
    Perfect-It 2=PF2500 or
    Perfect-it 3=SF4000/3500 or SF4500/3800

    I'd go with menzerna's current tech, they are more expensive but they are amazing performers. In most cases, you could go straight from FG400 to SF4000, no need to make it a 3 step process like you do with 3M.
    Wow that's great info really saved me some time. You mentioned "current tech", 3m has supposedly come out with some new compounds and polishes. The 3m rep is supposed to be coming by for a demo but I haven't heard anything yet. I'll ask on Monday.

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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    I saw this thread with a few questions and will weigh in when I have more time.

    (Going out of town today)

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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike@DedicatedPerfection View Post
    I saw this thread with a few questions and will weigh in when I have more time.

    (Going out of town today)
    Thanks Mike I'd really appreciate it.

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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    Quote Originally Posted by Audios S6 View Post
    3500=old sf 4000
    3800= old sf 4500

    For a fair comparison (that is 3M tech to Menz's old tech)
    Perfect-It 1=PG1000
    Perfect-It 2=IP2000
    Perfect-it 3=FF3000 or SF4500/3800

    For a not-so-fair comparison (that is 3M tech to Menz's current tech)
    Perfect-It 1=FG400 or SC300
    Perfect-It 2=PF2500 or
    Perfect-it 3=SF4000/3500 or SF4500/3800

    I'd go with menzerna's current tech, they are more expensive but they are amazing performers. In most cases, you could go straight from FG400 to SF4000, no need to make it a 3 step process like you do with 3M.

    .......or on some occasions you can make it a 1 step with FG400.

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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    Another quick question. Can I dilute normal store bought 70% Isopropyl Alcohol with distilled water at 1:1 to use as in IPA wipe? Is there some special IPA I need to buy. I wouldn't think so but...

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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7PaintGuns View Post
    Another quick question. Can I dilute normal store bought 70% Isopropyl Alcohol with distilled water at 1:1 to use as in IPA wipe? Is there some special IPA I need to buy. I wouldn't think so but...
    Here ya go..

    How to Mix IPA for Inspecting Correction Results



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    Re: FLEX XC 3401 first options?

    Thanks you saved me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Phillips

    "WARNING
    Do not chemically strip FRESH PAINT. Fresh paint has not fully cross-linked, dried and hardened. Introducing any type of solvent to the surface and allowing it to dwell could have a negative effect on the paint."

    Woah heh lol. Good thing I asked, never even gave this any thought. I had planned on doing my tests on fresh paint.

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